"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Falling in love with the woman I've been seeing

Lynx nkaf

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Never had a girl do that with me. I would be fine with it. I imagine they would hire a second one to validate the unbelievable things they would learn. My mode has always been just telling the truth, I have had to learn to only tell smaller parts of it and leave some for later. She should tell me that she is doing it because the trails left from that activity could bother me if I don't know who or why. In that context, it is not exactly honest to do it in secret; IMO.
good point
tell upon first contact then...how would I frame it?
"You know what my friend the P.I. said the other day? it was a good joke, let me tell you..."

then right away they know I have a P.I. friend?
going to start a thread
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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good point
tell upon first contact then...how would I frame it?
"You know what my friend the P.I. said the other day? it was a good joke, let me tell you..."

then right away they know I have a P.I. friend?
going to start a thread
for me, just tell me something like.

You: I like you a lot, but had a couple of failed tries where the guy was fake. is it ok with you if I have a PI check you out to ensure your not a fake?
Me: Sure, go ahead.
 

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All that wasted time Back.... I'd rather just drop 5,000 and learn in the first month what would have taken years.
I think that amount is a bit extreme unless you are engaged and marriage is right around the corner IMO.

There are books and videos written by ex CIA/FBI operatives that teach you techniques in identifying lies. You may want to enlighten yourself with these first as a first line of investigation. I think if you mastered these techniques, it could get you most of the way there into revealing truths from them.

Here's some: Examples
 

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Do not tell her you want to be exclusive. Control yourself. You guys get along well, are having sex and things are fine.
It’s imperative SHE brings up exclusivity first.
I sense the neediness building up inside of you, do not manifest this in your interactions with her.
Do it my way, things will workout.
Great advice here OP.

Just keep doing what you're doing. Your job is to have fun when you're with her and fvck her. Keep a little space although it might be hard. Gives a woman time to think about you and miss you, which ultimately makes them crave you more.

Never be the one that brings up a relationship. When she does, dont jump on it like a hobo on a ham sandwich. I even answer that question in a very indirect way.

I've been dating someone for 4 months now. At the 3 month mark she asked me if I was dating anyone else, if I saw a future with her, etc. You want THEM asking these questions.......not you. When you do, you lose frame.

Trust Cola and I on this one.
 

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Great advice here OP.

Just keep doing what you're doing. Your job is to have fun when you're with her and fvck her. Keep a little space although it might be hard. Gives a woman time to think about you and miss you, which ultimately makes them crave you more.

Never be the one that brings up a relationship. When she does, dont jump on it like a hobo on a ham sandwich. I even answer that question in a very indirect way.

I've been dating someone for 4 months now. At the 3 month mark she asked me if I was dating anyone else, if I saw a future with her, etc. You want THEM asking these questions.......not you. When you do, you lose frame.

Trust Cola and I on this one.
Good advice here...especially about not jumping into a relationship just because she asked. If you are a high value male you need to lay down the law with her on what it means to be in a relationship with you so this is where you set the boundaries in your relationship
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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