"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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all my life i was beta male

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Look into ur strengths instead of comparing yourself with other men.

One of your strengths is the ability to passively make others like you through your good humoured jokes, even when u r serious.

I myself don't even know when u r serious because of the way you project urself on here.

But you are gifted, that much I know, just learn how to use ur gifts.
 

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idk how to cope with that

i think its over.. cannot change personality
Aren't you the same guy who just posted a few weeks ago how no man who is successful with women would be posting here? Are we supposed to make you feel good about yourself now?
 

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Even though the original poster is a goofball and likely troll, this is a legitimate topic. A lot of guys who are longtime beta males need help de-programming and turning in a more alpha direction. It's common to see a 25-44 year old guy who has been a life long beta desire to change his ways. These guys have anywhere between 10-30 years of dating and relationship experience.

Men 40 and under today have suffered from incompetent fathering. First, there have been a large percentage of fathers completely absent. Present fathers aren't that much better, as a lot of present fathers who have seen their marriages survive haven't exactly done a great job in preparing their sons for a mating environment that has changed drastically. This is most commonly seen with Baby Boomer fathers who managed to stay married but not prepare their sons born between 1977-1990 for the present mating environment. Many of these Boomer fathers who have 40-50 year long relationships started dating in an era that doesn't resemble the era of the last 20 years. Since I'm 37, I've seen a lot of guys now 30-43 absolutely ripped to shreds in the dating environment of the past 10-15 years because they were ill prepared for it.

Men must be strong leaders. Being physically strong is important. A lifting and exercise regimen is key. I think being mentally strong is more important. The abundance mindset is important. Being resolute in your own value and not taking shiit from a woman. Also realizing that relationships are generally transient and not being Disney-fied to think that a lifetime relationship is a possibility, unless you are a man in some highly religious community. Mainstream guys can't expect lifelong relationships. Mental strength is difficult to develop. I'd say the underlying keys are discipline and knowledge of self-worth. Discipline can be demonstrated and developed by avoiding porn and fap. Avoiding non-healthy foods with bad ingredients as well.

This is the beginning to not being beta.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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idk how to cope with that

i think its over.. cannot change personality
Take martial arts class

Never stop working on your body
I find Antony Ellis program pretty good

On streets when other men tries to cut you go straight up to him death in the eyes and dont look back, like in bitter sweet symphony. This is not rude, men try fck with u.. you said that you're looking good, this is enough for other guys to try and mess with u

If you dont know what to say in conversation, say nothing. Your words are your worst enemy when you dont realize who is your friend and who's your opponent

You're is the sexual game, ppl wont cheer you up they'll try to take u down
 

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Aren't you the same guy who just posted a few weeks ago how no man who is successful with women would be posting here? Are we supposed to make you feel good about yourself now?
OP is the biggest train wreck on this forum. I picture him as some fat middle aged guy living in daddys basement eating cheetos while trolling on a forum.

Not one post has he ever typed that made any sense. Total failure.
 

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OP is the biggest train wreck on this forum. I picture him as some fat middle aged guy living in daddys basement eating cheetos while trolling on a forum.

Not one post has he ever typed that made any sense. Total failure.
keep coping i am somewhat fit and very good programmer
 

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Take martial arts class

Never stop working on your body
I find Antony Ellis program pretty good

On streets when other men tries to cut you go straight up to him death in the eyes and dont look back, like in bitter sweet symphony. This is not rude, men try fck with u.. you said that you're looking good, this is enough for other guys to try and mess with u

If you dont know what to say in conversation, say nothing. Your words are your worst enemy when you dont realize who is your friend and who's your opponent

You're is the sexual game, ppl wont cheer you up they'll try to take u down
Martial Arts give you control over your mind.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Martial Arts give you control over your mind.
That's absolutely true. Getting hit in the face or taken down repeatedly humbles you. After being in these kinds of stressful situations you learn to be calmer and resilient.
 

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Try Jesus.
talking about trolls

OP is the biggest train wreck on this forum. I picture him as some fat middle aged guy living in daddys basement eating cheetos while trolling on a forum.

Not one post has he ever typed that made any sense. Total failure.
ah come on we had big goal, sometimes his post make sense, but lately he is worse then ever, serious I think its like or 3 persons using teh same account, or he have multiple personalitys disorder
 

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That's absolutely true. Getting hit in the face or taken down repeatedly humbles you. After being in these kinds of stressful situations you learn to be calmer and resilient.
It's more than these situations. Even situations which are mental or verbal, you have more self control before losing control, thus giving you more control over WHATEVER.
 

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Martial arts and sex for maximum control
Martial arts, sex, healthy lifestyle, fitness, constant evaluating who is in your circle, planning long and and short term. Some politics and knowledge of it is required. Anytime you have several people it's part of it, and I hate politics, it's a part of reality.
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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That's absolutely true. Getting hit in the face or taken down repeatedly humbles you. After being in these kinds of stressful situations you learn to be calmer and resilient.
Do you really feel like 'humbling" yourself to all those around you is the way? Most people are prideful and selfish people, most are not humble.
 

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It's more than these situations. Even situations which are mental or verbal, you have more self control before losing control, thus giving you more control over WHATEVER.
It's not only that. It sneaks into all aspects of your personality and life. The humbling process shows you who you are and what you're capable of. Many guys have a chip on their shoulder because of family circumstances or because of this one time on the school yard, where they have gotten their a**es kicked.

This completely vanishes with martial arts. Beyond that there is the bonding process with other fighters. You're surrounded by tough guys. Therefore you become a tough guy yourself and your confidence and testosterone increases. You're not full of hot air anymore - it's not just Fugazi!!!

As the great James Mattis said: "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."
 

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Take martial arts class
Martial art's gives self control and focus which are useful for non-physical situations.

Never stop working on your body
I find Antony Ellis program pretty good
Body and mind tie together. Your mind lives in the body. Keeping your body maintained keepps your quality of life higher.

On streets when other men tries to cut you go straight up to him death in the eyes and dont look back, like in bitter sweet symphony. This is not rude, men try fck with u.. you said that you're looking good, this is enough for other guys to try and mess with u
Ideally you stay out of those environments, but if your in there you do what you have to do.

If you dont know what to say in conversation, say nothing. Your words are your worst enemy when you dont realize who is your friend and who's your opponent
Opponents will show themselves by their actions and by your energy around them. If your energy always fades around them or you get stressed they might be going against you very strongly...

You're is the sexual game, ppl wont cheer you up they'll try to take u down
Very true. Even women will try to make you look bad if you have a lot of pull with your sex, they don't want anyone "controlling" their friend, or "women". Other men, especially cvcks will c0ck bl0ck, they might have even sworn off sex. But nothing lets them feel better than feeling they have messed it up for another man.
 

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It's not only that. It sneaks into all aspects of your personality and life. The humbling process shows you who you are and what you're capable of. Many guys have a chip on their shoulder because of family circumstances or because of this one time on the school yard, where they have gotten their a**es kicked.

This completely vanishes with martial arts. Beyond that there is the bonding process with other fighters. You're surrounded by tough guys. Therefore you become a tough guy yourself and your confidence and testosterone increases. You're not full of hot air anymore - it's not just Fugazi!!!

As the great James Mattis said: "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."
I get it. You can be humble and more relaxed, because you have nothing to prove, and you have no insecurity because you know for a fact you can handle yourself if it comes to it.
 

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Do you really feel like 'humbling" yourself to all those around you is the way? Most people are prideful and selfish people, most are not humble.
My man, humbling doesn't mean what you think it means in this context. You know who you are and that you are a badass. Be humble, because you never know what situation arises. If you are ready and capable and don't talk loud sh*t, about others or yourself, you'll be levelheaded. Because guess what?! There will always be someone smarter, stronger and faster than you.

Do what you can do (the best way possible) and influence your internal world. You can't influence what people do and think.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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