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How do you know?
All the restaurants, theaters, casinos, gyms, airports etc in the country are closed, which means people are unemployed...... That's observable....

Plus everyone on here knows someone who's out of work whether it's a neighbor, relative or friend.... That's also oberservable....

But how many of us actually know someone that has COVID19? The vast majority of us dont know of anyone (family, friend, or neighbor) that has it....

If you're argument is that most people are asymptotic then that just proves that we shut down the country and wrecked the economy for no reason.
 

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Overall, the virus opened our eyes to some real f-ups our country, and others have made. Like, why in the fark would we have 96% of our meds made in a Communist country? ...and the dam face masks?
"We tried to show them Capitalism", the experts say. More like "It's all about world money". And gambling w/ our lives, without our knowledge or approval. International disrespect driven by greed.

And it bit us in the butt, if this virus is a lie, then it's one we needed to deal with. We need to bring our sh!t back the fu*k home.
That was the real lesson here. Our country and others need to get their heads out of each other's azzes and play the game for survival, not NWO cr@p.
 

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COVID19 lockdown is 100% politically motivated. And everyone knows which side is doing everything they can to prolong this tyrannical lockdown and why ( orange man bad).....

It's funny how the party that claims to care about the working class are now sacrificing the working class just to strike at the dude in the Oval Office.
 

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All the restaurants, theaters, casinos, gyms, airports etc in the country are closed, which means people are unemployed...... That's observable....

Plus everyone on here knows someone who's out of work whether it's a neighbor, relative or friend.... That's also oberservable....

But how many of us actually know someone that has COVID19?
I'll preface this by saying that I don't mean that anyone is right or wrong.

If you went to a hospital you would also observe people with COVID 19. I know at least one person who had it. So what? What someone observes does not equal the statistic that unemployment may be 20%. This is data that was supplied either by the media or gov't through media, and you either choose to accept or reject it. And some unaffected people are panicking over it, just like unaffected people panicked over the disease.

People often show their credulity and incredulity depending on what makes them feel good or correct. Watch the confirmation bias run rampant in the coming weeks on both sides. Of course both sides might be correct (or incorrect), but most people can't seem to hold competing thoughts in their head.
 

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I'll preface this by saying that I don't mean that anyone is right or wrong.

If you went to a hospital you would also observe people with COVID 19. I know at least one person who had it. So what? What someone observes does not equal the statistic that unemployment may be 20%. This is data that was supplied either by the media or gov't through media, and you either choose to accept or reject it. And some unaffected people are panicking over it, just like unaffected people panicked over the disease.

People often show their credulity and incredulity depending on what makes them feel good or correct. Watch the confirmation bias run rampant in the coming weeks on both sides. Of course both sides might be correct (or incorrect), but most people can't seem to hold competing thoughts in their head.
In debate, we would call your statement "How do you know that?" a bear trap. I saw that you were hoping for a response of "The news reported it" or "The gov reported it" then you would respond with something like: "The news/gov reported COVID19 as well, why dont you believe that."

I saved you the trouble and got straight to the point: we can observe mass unemployment because businesses are closed and we all know someone (relative, friend or neighbor) that's lost their job. But none of us know of anyone that's got COVID19....

Doesnt it seem odd that if this virus is so fast-spreading and so lethal that we would at least know of someone in our own personal lives that's died from it?

And if the argument is that most people who contract it are asymptotic then that just proves lockdown was never necessary to begin with....

Again, COVID19 is 100% political.
 

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In debate, we would call your statement "How do you know that?" a bear trap. I saw that you were hoping for a response of "The news reported it" or "The gov reported it" then you would respond with something like: "The news/gov reported COVID19 as well, why dont you believe that."

I saved you the trouble and got straight to the point: we can observe mass unemployment because businesses are closed and we all know someone (relative, friend or neighbor) that's lost their job. But none of us know of anyone that's got COVID19....

Doesnt it seem odd that if this virus is so fast-spreading and so lethal that we would at least know of someone in our own personal lives that's died from it?

And if the argument is that most people who contract it are asymptotic then that just proves lockdown was never necessary to begin with....

Again, COVID19 is 100% political.
I see where you're coming from. I do agree it's political insofar as people are making it political (including, obviously, politicians). I don't support a political ideology or party, so I'm not invested in that part of it. But in their defense, it was always a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.
 

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Nature at work . Are you going to save all the wildebeast from getting eaten by lions?
I do care . I care about the billions who will get affected by losing their jobs and livilihoods If this lockdown continues.
You dont have billions of people in USA. We are talking about the America right?
 

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In debate, we would call your statement "How do you know that?" a bear trap. I saw that you were hoping for a response of "The news reported it" or "The gov reported it" then you would respond with something like: "The news/gov reported COVID19 as well, why dont you believe that."

I saved you the trouble and got straight to the point: we can observe mass unemployment because businesses are closed and we all know someone (relative, friend or neighbor) that's lost their job. But none of us know of anyone that's got COVID19....

Doesnt it seem odd that if this virus is so fast-spreading and so lethal that we would at least know of someone in our own personal lives that's died from it?

And if the argument is that most people who contract it are asymptotic then that just proves lockdown was never necessary to begin with....

Again, COVID19 is 100% political.
My neighbour across out street died from it. People are better off economically for now because the government money is better than gig or self employment. We have a universal income.experiment that may become policy if a more left wing government comes into power. In fact many people here want the government money to continue and like this.
 

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People often show their credulity and incredulity depending on what makes them feel good or correct. Watch the confirmation bias run rampant in the coming weeks on both sides. Of course both sides might be correct (or incorrect), but most people can't seem to hold competing thoughts in their head.
Yes, I also think both sides have a point, and that should be okay. But people pick one side or the other and they don't want to be wrong.

I don't think the virus itself is political, it exists. But people have made it political, and are using it as a political weapon, unfortunately. The fact that it's an election year only amps everything up.

But none of us know of anyone that's got COVID19....
I know of a couple people who have had it. They both recovered, but one was hospitalized and on oxygen for a few days.

I think the virus is dangerous, but of course the media sensationalizes everything. I've been practicing social distancing, but I'm not convinced this forced lockdown was the correct thing to do.
 

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I believe the increase in so called experts behind the keyboard on this topic have increased faster than the unemployment rate in the US by now.
 

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@corrector I make more money at my gig than the government would give me and I also make more money at my side business than what the government would give me. You are wasting your life with your bullshiit beliefs. I know 2 people that have had the china virus and one of them died, although he really died from medical negligence, having said that I know way more people that are unemployed because of the china virus. With the damage that we have done to our economies their is going to be a worldwide hunger pandemic that will kill way more people. To all the lock down supporters let me pose this question. When the poor countries of the world start to beg for money to save their citizens from mass starvation, where are we going to get it from? When you damage the producers you damage the production system and when you do that you unleash an even more deadly virus it's called the starvation virus.
 

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@corrector I make more money at my gig than the government would give me and I also make more money at my side business than what the government would give me. You are wasting your life with your bullshiit beliefs. I know 2 people that have had the china virus and one of them died, although he really died from medical negligence, having said that I know way more people that are unemployed because of the china virus. With the damage that we have done to our economies their is going to be a worldwide hunger pandemic that will kill way more people. To all the lock down supporters let me pose this question. When the poor countries of the world start to beg for money to save their citizens from mass starvation, where are we going to get it from? When you damage the producers you damage the production system and when you do that you unleash an even more deadly virus it's called the starvation virus.
They can get it from the 1%. Too much people work hard and end up having to choose between rent and groceries. The tax base had eroded if more people are working poor. If you are an exception good for you. But I think there are more people living paycheque to paycheque so it really does not matter how you are doing.
 
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All the restaurants, theaters, casinos, gyms, airports etc in the country are closed, which means people are unemployed...... That's observable....

Plus everyone on here knows someone who's out of work whether it's a neighbor, relative or friend.... That's also oberservable....

But how many of us actually know someone that has COVID19? The vast majority of us dont know of anyone (family, friend, or neighbor) that has it....

If you're argument is that most people are asymptotic then that just proves that we shut down the country and wrecked the economy for no reason.
OMFG, really?

I don't personally know anyone who has had a heart attack, so nobody gets them. If some people do, then how do I know for sure how many people did?

I don't personally know any billionaires, so they must not exist.

There's a bunch of businesses around here that had to close, but there's no problem with unemployment, because for all I know the businesses lied about laying off their staff and are paying them without telling anybody. That way their employees can collect unemployment and screw the system like the lazy scum that they are. :rolleyes: (sarcasm, for anyone who's sufficiently tone-deaf to miss it)

I could cherry-pick all day, but I've had so many already my stomach is starting to hurt...
 

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Are you asymptomatic, experience mild symptoms, or you just didn't catch the virus yet? Different people, from all walks of life, including children, very healthy marathon runners at a young age, all across the board are dying horribly from this virus. Sure, lots of people are asymptomatic or have few symptoms but they can pass them to healthy people who can end up dying, that's almost akin to murder.

You don't care about 1 million or 10 million lives? See your example just keeps going higher in body-count. Why did you stop at 10 million? Why not stop at 100 million or half the population, or 3/4 of the population, or how about just leave a million survivors? Where do you draw the line?
We drive cars, no? People die in car accidents every minute. Why dont we ban cars? Why dont we make the speed limit 10 miles per hour? There would be near zero deaths. Toddlers drown in bathtubs regularly. We should ban bath tubss while were at it. The point of life is to live a full life, not a safe one.
 
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We drive cars, no? People die in car accidents every minute.
They don't die by suffocation though (unless the car is going into a lake). Too much suffering with this disease. I also pray before taking the wheel and don't just drive like that.

Stoic said:
Why dont we ban cars? Why dont we make the speed limit 10 miles per hour. There would be near zero deaths. Toddlers drown in bathtubs regularly. We should ban bath tubes while were at it. The point of life is to live a full life, not a safe one.
People are at fault with accidents not cars, people are at fault when toddlers drown, not bathtubs, but when it all boils down to it, it's always someone at fault for those deaths. With a pandemic the people who are at fault are those who are sick who refuse or are not being quarantened and you don't have to be showing any symptoms to be sick so it's safer to keep everyone home.

One thing I will agree on is they should dismantle the police force because civilians die because of the police and you can't justify as to how they lead to a full life rather than a safe one.
 

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People are at fault with accidents not cars, people are at fault when toddlers drown, not bathtubs, but when it all boils down to it, it's always someone at fault for those deaths. With a pandemic the people who are at fault are those who are sick who refuse or are not being quarantened and you don't have to be showing any symptoms to be sick so it's safer to keep everyone home.

One thing I will agree on is they should dismantle the police force because civilians die because of the police and you can't justify as to how they lead to a full life rather than a safe one.
And remember, people used to fly through windshields before seatbelts were invented and eventually enforced. That used to be a personal liberty argument, too. As far as masks, I don't get the complaining, it's not hard to wear a mask if you don't have a breathing condition (and those people are excepted), so you can avoid infecting others. You also have to wear shoes and a shirt to enter most stores. Snowflake Culture is everywhere.
 

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Some well known conspiracy theorists say the virus itself isn't even real. That the elites are using the flu as the vessel of covid to create the plannedemic as the flu deaths numbers down by 80% than what they normally are.

I'm not going to say the virus is fake. There is a ton of red flags that should make one question what the real agenda is. Why would they blatantly kill patients in hospitals, why would they list just about every death as corona, why are a lot of hospitals empty, why are nurses saying their bosses are taking their patients away cause their doing proper treatments only for those patients to later die, why is hydroxycholrone all of a sudden being blasted when it was praised for the last 40 years, why were the figured from Fauci way the fuk off.

Now you have the media manipulating the mass's with the Arbery killing. Constantly showing a 7 year old high school grad pic to touch you heart. You see schools force you to smile and wear a suite. The expression is forced, meaning when you look at it you think aww what a good nice boy he is. Thats not the real person you're seeing, it's a deception the media uses as operation mocking bird is an extremely effective mind control method. The media shows you certain clips to deceive you into hating the white men and loving the black man. Not saying what they did to him was wrong cause it was. What I am saying is the media is forcing a certain narrative to manipulate your mind to believe what they want you to believe.

Then you have the 100% staged death of Floyd. There were enough red flags with that one to make it obvious it is staged. One of the biggest red flags was the ambulance pulls up to supposedly help the victim but not one EMT was actually there? All cops wearing body armor. Zero medical help for a victim who's laying on the ground unconscious, zero medical equipment on the scene. Only cops come out the back of the ambulance, pick up the body and put it in the back of the truck. The more awake you become, the easier it is to see the blatant deception right before your eyes.

All of this is preplanned to cause a racial war, riots & looting. Deep state is becoming desperate. Come election time they will probably pull another rabbit out the hat. Soros is funding all this chaos. Paid protesters, people spraying Fuk Trump on buildings which is 100% paid to spread hate. A undercover cop was caught breaking windows during a riot to instigate others to start rioting, I've seen a pile of bricks next a building that were deliberately placed to entice rioters to use them. Some kids even knew it was staged saying there is zero construction in this area.

People are shouting fake news to the media outlets at protests which causes them to leave. News outlets caught on live tv lying, saying people aren't wearing masks when a guy walks up saying neither is your camera man. Most all the rioters who were arrested in MN were from out of state. All paid actors crisis actors. It's so hard for the average human to believe this kind of stuff due to being conditioned by the fake media. I even went searching to look for ads on sites for paid crisis actors and couldn't believe my eyes. They make them sign confidentiality contacts.

A few years back I went to a Carmax and saw a bunch of people protesting against them in front of the dealership. Me being the curious man I am I walked to the crowd to spark a conversation with one of them. I asked the guy what they protesting against Carmax. He straight I said "I dont know man, I'm just here to get paid to hold this sign". Kinda blew my mind as he said all the protesters were there strictly for the money.

Most people have no clue a lot of cops are Freemasons. Who to do freemasons worship=Lucifer. This is a spiritual war we're fighting right now. We're seeing a great awaking before our eyes. I personally do not think we've seen the worst of what is going to happen. I truly hope what I feel will happen doesn't happen. These elites will stop at nothing to get to what they want.

Lastly-I'm not cray
 
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Some well known conspiracy theorists say the virus itself isn't even real. That the elites are using the flu as the vessel of covid to create the plannedemic as the flu deaths numbers down by 80% than what they normally are.

I'm not going to say the virus is fake. There is a ton of red flags that should make one question what the real agenda is. Why would they blatantly kill patients in hospitals, why would they list just about every death as corona, why are a lot of hospitals empty, why are nurses saying their bosses are taking their patients away cause their doing proper treatments only for those patients to later die, why is hydroxycholrone all of a sudden being blasted when it was praised for the last 40 years, why were the figured from Fauci way the fuk off.

Now you have the media manipulating the mass's with the Arbery killing. Constantly showing a 7 year old high school grad pic to touch you heart. You see schools force you to smile and wear a suite. The expression is forced, meaning when you look at it you think aww what a good nice boy he is. Thats not the real person you're seeing, it's a deception the media uses as operation mocking bird is an extremely effective mind control method. The media shows you certain clips to deceive you into hating the white men and loving the black man. Not saying what they did to him was wrong cause it was. What I am saying is the media is forcing a certain narrative to manipulate your mind to believe what they want you to believe.

Then you have the 100% staged death of Floyd. There were enough red flags with that one to make it obvious it is staged. One of the biggest red flags was the ambulance pulls up to supposedly help the victim but not one EMT was actually there? All cops wearing body armor. Zero medical help for a victim who's laying on the ground unconscious, zero medical equipment on the scene. Only cops come out the back of the ambulance, pick up the body and put it in the back of the truck. The more awake you become, the easier it is to see the blatant deception right before your eyes.

All of this is preplanned to cause a racial war, riots & looting. Deep state is becoming desperate. Come election time they will probably pull another rabbit out the hat. Soros is funding all this chaos. Paid protesters, people spraying Fuk Trump on buildings which is 100% paid to spread hate. A undercover cop was caught breaking windows during a riot to instigate others to start rioting, I've seen a pile of bricks next a building that were deliberately placed to entice rioters to use them. Some kids even knew it was staged saying there is zero construction in this area.

People are shouting fake news to the media outlets at protests which causes them to leave. News outlets caught on live tv lying, saying people aren't wearing masks when a guy walks up saying neither is your camera man. Most all the rioters who were arrested in MN were from out of state. All paid actors crisis actors. It's so hard for the average human to believe this kind of stuff due to being conditioned by the fake media. I even went searching to look for ads on sites for paid crisis actors and couldn't believe my eyes. They make them sign confidentiality contacts.

A few years back I went to a Carmax and saw a bunch of people protesting against them in front of the dealership. Me being the curious man I am I walked to the crowd to spark a conversation with one of them. I asked the guy what they protesting against Carmax. He straight I said "I dont know man, I'm just here to get paid to hold this sign". Kinda blew my mind as he said all the protesters were there strictly for the money.

Most people have no clue a lot of cops are Freemasons. Who to do freemasons worship=Lucifer. This is a spiritual war we're fighting right now. We're seeing a great awaking before our eyes. I personally do not think we've seen the worst of what is going to happen. I truly hope what I feel will happen doesn't happen. These elites will stop at nothing to get to what they want.

Lastly-I'm not cray
You do know alot of looting and great unrest is injected by the various power groups in peaceful protests?
 
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