It’s impossible .. If you aren’t nice looking you better have some type of crazy semi local celebrity social status going on, or you will be an incel in 2020.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Cleared it with the mods! A thread I’ve wanted to do for years. Post your real life picture let the community help fix your looks!(completely optiona)
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
sangheilios
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I wouldn't say impossible but it's just crazy to see this many legitimately decent to even very attractive guys on here having any issues with the dating game. If you guys were short, out of shape and ugly guys who wore sweat pants every day I could understand that. You guys on here are in shape, many of you are good looking guys and you even seem to dress well and be presentable.
I'm just saying, in the real world you aren't going to get much better than that. This really says more about what the dating market is like now and the mindset of many women due to overabundance and not so much you guys as individuals.
RickTheToad
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I think that's pushing it a bit. No? There are always fatties (EyeBRollin's fav.) and single mom's to play around with. ;'p
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TBH, the apps made the ladies spoiled for choice. I'll be honest, when I get a bit bored, I can fire up the Bumble and get interest to meet up or chat usually 4 - 5 out of 10 times. Though, I'm tired of the games and I do not jump through hoops, so I just stay where I am right now; until our time is up. Different p ussy from time to time is pretty cool, but just remember, if you got them into bed pretty quickly, so do the dudes before you. Way to concerned about STDs. They are rampant in NYC right now.
EyeBRollin
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LOL. I like fatties but don’t bang em often. Maybe 10% of my lays? I’ll have to check my records from last year
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Man, I’ll bang a cute fat girl .. they are usually freaky and easy going
RickTheToad
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I ain't hating dude. It's all good.
But down here I see fat, out of shape and rough guys with decent women irl all the time. So somehow these uglish guys are getting hot women what are we doing wrong?
I think OLD is a bit skewed, especially depending on if you live in a skewed location with bad demographics.
But as I said OLD has gone way downhill. Not only in the looks of women but overall more baggage and damaged goods and overall I'm noticing a lot less women on OLD.
What people also don't factor in is that a lot of women are not even serious on OLD. Especially the free versions many are on there just for validation to show they have a profile and many of them are free dinner date *****s too taking advantage of cucks who buy them meals. I had one HB8.5 this summer who used it for free meals. She'd go on at least a couple free dinner meals a week then ghosts the guy.
I think a lot of those women on OLD are not even serious about dating. Some of them on the more premium sites like Match are very pick especially about qualifiers and finances and you see them on the site for years. then factor in the fake profiles.
So no, It's not the guys problem on this forum. OLD IMO just simply so few women who are serious about meeting someone and factor in the few decent ones on there and it's like 12 guys to one.
But it does chap me when I see a fat guy, ugly guy or old guy with a better looking younger woman. Even guys bordering on incel looking have better looking women than I see on OLD.
There just simply isn't enough decent women on OLD. The pool is so small compared to 5 years ago.
What gives?
Is it a retirement area? Hell, I can go out to dinner during snowbird season and 85 percent of the people are over 55, even sitting at the bar. Literally the only people under 50 are the ones working at the bars, restaurants etc. My area 20 and 30 something singles are super rare as I'm sure you know. When you county has a median age of 55.9 and the city you live in is 66.7 you have a big problem. Even OLD for days I can go without seeing really anyone from my county under 50 on it. It's really depressing. All my younger coworkers at work complain about it too. Heck one went to tampa for a date with a girl from Tinder lol. Almost 100 miles.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
GJ cola!
Look great infern0. Really lean.
Roober
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Wait a second... Who's the guy in the avatar?
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Infern0
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Me with more tan
Atom Smasher
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Guys, I'll be sending my invoice out this week for all the photoshopping I did for you. If anyone else is interested, PM me and I'll make you look like an adonis for a reasonable fee.
zekko
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Are you sure you took proper care when you did mine? Seems like you overdid the computer graphics a little:
Reminds me of that Geico Pete Nochhio commercial. It's hard for me to watch it without seeing it through the SoSuave lens.
He was trying to be be deceitful, after all, so he deserves what he gets. But I can't help but see her resting b!tch face, and her rejecting him because she found out she wasn't getting Chad:
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.