"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Women are horrible when it comes to judging men, that's why back in the day the fathers used to pick the husbands for the daughters because they were less likely to fvck it up. Today the pickins are slimmer than they used to be, mainly because so many men are not putting in the work in order to get a deal that is pure dog shiit. You add to that society stripping men's masculinity and you get a lot of men women don't want, those are some of the reasons that women are complaining. Yes a women can walk into a bar and within 5 minutes get a guy to take back home to pound her but the problem they have is finding guys they want to go home with for that pounding.
Yes his is exactly true...most guys my age on OLD are fvcking losers. Drunks, druggies, no job, no car, socially inept, no conversational skills, insecure, controlling, no bedroom skills, no ambition, couch potatoes or some combination of these.

That's literally 90% of my competition. Which is why I fvcking kill it on OLD. I am so far away from what they usually find they are like "omg, how are you still single??" because they are used to dating straight up losers.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I can remember 20 or so years ago talking to a high school teacher that had relocated to SoFla, and making damn good money at it, with all the "No Child Left Behind" incentives, and how women would lose interest after hearing him say "teacher".
Funny, on OLD tons of hot teachers down here. That teacher was a private school teacher, a very rich school she taught at living in a rich town. Wages for those teachers probably 90k a year. The other OLD dates were public school teachers.

One was 39, teacher down here since 25 years old. She was right now making like 48k a year and was teaching an online class now. The other teacher I got the hots for currently the 49 year old works in the same county, probably makes less than that since she's only taught for five years.

Interesting about that No Child left behind BS. I didn't know they had bonuses for that stuff back then.

Just funny because most of the decent looking women my age range on the better OLD sites like Match are teachers. Teachers seem to be the easiest to get dates and replies from too.
 

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Yes his is exactly true...most guys my age on OLD are fvcking losers. Drunks, druggies, no job, no car, socially inept, no conversational skills, insecure, controlling, no bedroom skills, no ambition, couch potatoes or some combination of these.

That's literally 90% of my competition. Which is why I fvcking kill it on OLD. I am so far away from what they usually find they are like "omg, how are you still single??" because they are used to dating straight up losers.
How old are you and what apps do you use? If you're using POF, Tinder, OKC, etc. all you're going to find is losers both male and female due to being free. Isn't the case around here on the more premium sites.
 

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For the average person, dating is going to be a rather inefficient undertaking. That's just how it is, and to a degree, it's always been. It doesn't help that there are just so many time-wasters out there. Plus, as you get older your wants and needs are going to change the shape of which women you're going to keep around, or even bother with in the first place. You may just want to play the field now but when you're older you may want to settle down.

No easy way around it. Woman or man, the dating arena is unpredictable.
 

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For the average person, dating is going to be a rather inefficient undertaking. That's just how it is, and to a degree, it's always been. It doesn't help that there are just so many time-wasters out there. Plus, as you get older your wants and needs are going to change the shape of which women you're going to keep around, or even bother with in the first place. You may just want to play the field now but when you're older you may want to settle down.

No easy way around it. Woman or man, the dating arena is unpredictable.
Why do you think women waste your time now? I mean flakey.

Like even 15 years ago you didnt see women show guys up like they do now. Now its acceptable behavior on the womans part to just not show or ghost.

I have an hb9 25 year old cousin. Never has really had a boyfriend, comes from above average white collar household, college degree. She currently has a guy shes kind of interested in her parents said but not much more. Otherwise she just hangouts with her girl friends. Even on her fb photos hardly any pics of her hanging around men or on her fb friends.

She went to all girls catholic schools growing up too. Very snobbish girl though. Way her parents put it she thinks shes too good for everyone and I guess waiting for a guy who makes 250k a year or something and rich super chad.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Yes his is exactly true...most guys my age on OLD are fvcking losers. Drunks, druggies, no job, no car, socially inept, no conversational skills, insecure, controlling, no bedroom skills, no ambition, couch potatoes or some combination of these.

That's literally 90% of my competition. Which is why I fvcking kill it on OLD. I am so far away from what they usually find they are like "omg, how are you still single??" because they are used to dating straight up losers.
But these "losers" aren't short. :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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I know everyone is different. But, as a man, I didn’t find dating hard. And I do know a co worker, an attractive female, who does find dating hard. So ...
 
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