"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Alcohol Is Ruining My Game!

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Date last night.. Started off well

Back to my place.. Smashed like crazy for a few hours. Great sex!

We both got drunk, she gets emotional and sleeps on my sofa because I didn't cuddle upto her in bed haha.

I tell her to leave if your going to get all chitty about things.

We both talked some crap as we was both drunk, she left for home in the morning.

Alcohol really fuks up my thought process.. I am going to give it up for a while.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Best way to limit it is to find a hobby and a purpose. Cook for example. Electronics. Software.

You got receptors that need alcohol, and you have to satisfy them with something while you off the bottle.
 

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yea i'm trying to go so sober. Promised myself dry January with the plan of extending it if i felt the momentum... but then went out with work on Friday with the intention of drinking soft drinks but my colleagues ended up buying me alcohol when it was their round so yesterday wasted a day with hangover.

I'm 35 years old and I feel like now would be a good time to just totally change my lifestyle and give up alcohol. I don't drink in the week but if I go out at weekend I end up totally ruined. Hard to find other people that are sober but aren't totally boring though - like I have no idea what to do on a Friday night that is social and doesn't involve drinking.
 

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Do you guys also experience this?

My game was AIR tight, to the point where I was banging her, and she couldn't get enough of me.

Few hours later, we are both drunk and things got messy haha.

I ain't heard back from this bish, but anyway lessons learned.

First date and too much alcohol is likely to end in disaster.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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yea i'm trying to go so sober. Promised myself dry January with the plan of extending it if i felt the momentum... but then went out with work on Friday with the intention of drinking soft drinks but my colleagues ended up buying me alcohol when it was their round so yesterday wasted a day with hangover.

I'm 35 years old and I feel like now would be a good time to just totally change my lifestyle and give up alcohol. I don't drink in the week but if I go out at weekend I end up totally ruined. Hard to find other people that are sober but aren't totally boring though - like I have no idea what to do on a Friday night that is social and doesn't involve drinking.
In the same boat as you. I joined meetup.com and got the app. This weekend played 5-a-side on Friday night and hiked a mountain on Saturday morning. Got chatting to a nice girl on the hike so meeting up with her next weekend.
 

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I love alcohol. But I have a hard rule of never more than two drinks in any social setting. I relax it up to four if I’m in my own house one on one with a chick I’ve been smashing for a while. Four drinks on a full stomach only gets me tipsy at best.

Alcohol has some moderate benefits. I don’t take medicine in any capacity so sometimes it helps with delayed onset muscle soreness. I also prefer a sweet wine or cider to drinking soda or juice.
 

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In the same boat as you. I joined meetup.com and got the app. This weekend played 5-a-side on Friday night and hiked a mountain on Saturday morning. Got chatting to a nice girl on the hike so meeting up with her next weekend.
Nice - the hiking sounds good
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm done with alcohol.

It really fvcks me up.

I actually get quiet and antisocial as a drunk... it's absolutely mind boggling as I see it have the opposite effect on others.
 

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I'm done with alcohol.

It really fvcks me up.

I actually get quiet and antisocial as a drunk... it's absolutely mind boggling as I see it have the opposite effect on others.
Alcohol mess me up two but what about capping it at one or two drinks. You dont have to drink to get buzzed.
 

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I had learned quite some years ago that booze & sexual performance do not mix. There are drinking days and there are erection days. I think I have to go back almost to last century for the last time I ejaaculated while buzzed. :eek: :eek:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I had learned quite some years ago that booze & sexual performance do not mix. There are drinking days and there are erection days. I think I have to go back almost to last century for the last time I ejaaculated while buzzed. :eek: :eek:
I can go from solid tight game.. To talking absolute shyte late a few drinks later!
 

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I don't think I've ever incorporated alcohol with my dates early on. I always felt like it cheapens the whole process.
It would be like dumping nerve gas in water then using a net to catch the fish?
 
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