Epic Days
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Not likely but it’s fine by me. LolI'll take that as a compliment? ...especially since I'm nearly 20yrs older than EpicDays.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Not likely but it’s fine by me. LolI'll take that as a compliment? ...especially since I'm nearly 20yrs older than EpicDays.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Could be a guy is innocent, yes. Can be another guy out of my view that knows how to take advantage of a confused girl, just like several of the posters brag about doing in this forum. Yes it takes two to proceed, but an emotionally confused girl with one of the really wise guys is easy picking just like bragged about in some of the thread on this forum. I belive it, because I can now see the emotion flips and switches. That second guy...ABSOLUTELY!! The guy could be completely innocent and even unaware that he is being sized up by a panther. In most cases he is because he can’t see it do to his warped reality.
Just yesterday I was standing in line at a grocery store and looked over to my left. A girl no more than 18, if that was staring at me and broke into a smile when I finally noticed her. There’s no mistake about what she was thinking. Cute little Hispanic girl.
INCELs are the low point of our civilization. Many are unrecoverable. Including some on here. They just can’t get past their programming.
"Confused"... Why you taking up for her? She might just know she wants to look around. To play around. That maybe later she will feel a different way. But thats how she feels today.Could be a guy is innocent, yes. Can be another guy out of my view that knows how to take advantage of a confused girl, just like several of the posters brag about doing in this forum. Yes it takes two to proceed, but an emotionally confused girl with one of the really wise guys is easy picking just like bragged about in some of the thread on this forum. I belive it, because I can now see the emotion flips and switches. That second guy...
I know what you tell about the grocery line, it happens to me multiple times every day.
I think somethings is going to change. One guy in the side view is ... out of town right now.... I also seen all the symptoms of having popped a plan B pill, and it did not work... HOWEVER... can be menopause starting or a few other things... no solid proof yet unless something grows. so this is now what... chapter 47 or 48 in this saga...Updates?
of course this is all conjecture,"Confused"... Why you taking up for her? She might just know she wants to look around. To play around. That maybe later she will feel a different way. But thats how she feels today.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
nope, don't have any proof yet of who.. but apparently this is the mindset of those that do this. I don't know for sure who... but whoever it is that is what is in there mind, at least that is how others tell when it is about someone else...He said this TO you?
Yes. This could possibly work. Tell the fogot back off. However, dont do it in public or before your wife.Go over to the married red pill Reddit. Lots of guys in the same place as you.
Put a GPS to your wife vehicle and monitor her. If there is pattern in movement, then you know what is going on. Dont orther the GPS your self and don't mail it to you. Have it shipped to your work or closest family member. Dont even let her know you visit this site and dont talk to your children about. Buy extra phone with cash and hide it from her. You can track some one with phone and GPS a afixed to vehicle.nope, don't have any proof yet of who.. but apparently this is the mindset of those that do this. I don't know for sure who... but whoever it is that is what is in there mind, at least that is how others tell when it is about someone else...
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Let me ask you a stupid question. When in bed and having sex or daily at home, does she call you by your name or has began to call you in a different way like honey, sweetie or any other name that is not yout proper name??? Some women do this to avoid calling you by their lover name. If so, she calls you and the ohter guy by the same name to avoid being caught.While reading for red pill, I learned the word ****block. How do I do it? I know it depends, but what has worked for others? If wife would do it, I would not have the issue to start with. Do I confront the guy.. He knows already... and cowers away when I approach. My problem is no proof...and doing something dramatic and being wrong is not good, but geez after reading MMSLP I am definitely angry. If nothing physical has occurred I would like to block it, but how? Because if it has and does not get physical it will be easier to deal with. Wife is still really defensive of him.
No, nothing has changed in how we call / name each other. She has actually been really good in the last week or two plus now.. Like exactly how I would want her to be. Very scary... Problem is that I think she used a plan b birth control and would not need it with me. It looks like it worked... so I try to think if it was that or something else. If it was that, then big problem.. If it was something else then I would almost think that I have made progress in my efforts.. Nothing is ever easy or clear it seems...Let me ask you a stupid question. When in bed and having sex or daily at home, does she call you by your name or has began to call you in a different way like honey, sweetie or any other name that is not yout proper name??? Some women do this to avoid calling you by their lover name. If so, she calls you and the ohter guy by the same name to avoid being caught.
been working on that, and did try the honest talk some time ago. It was met with anger... for now today... the anger seems gone.Tell her you are concerned and its obvious there are some issues you two need to work on. Sit down and discuss. You are basically trying to lead the horse(her) to water. Pick her brain and see where she stands, make changes, etc, then sit back and see what she does. Always judge by actions. Words are just to get the action started. If you don't see improvement and a strong desire in her to reconnect then end the marriage.
What about marks in the body? Scratches, bruices? Does her clothes smell? Does he or she drive an SUV or van where they can fvck?Looks like an interesting forum.
I have a wife of 15 years that has become uninterested in me. She still performs duties but clearly has lost most of the interest. And of course that is not a nice situation.
So many details, and I know it is not fun to read a long rambling post.
I would like to get her back (completely). We have kids also..
Her focus has moved to outside the house, and I have personally viewed body language between her and another married guy. She is living with us, but interest is outside.
If I can use the forum for advice.. first question is how can I determine if the situation is already to far gone to fix ? The next questions will be about how to do it. I have already been reading for weeks.. months.. ideas from internet and everything is so not consistent.. I had one forum ban me as a spammer maybe because i asked a vague question.
thanks
no marks, no smell. yes on the type of car. at the beggining of the year there was a suspiciouse bruise.. but none since then. there was a day in about a month or two ago that by chance I ended up seeing the panty. was full of the same white film that we get on our dyk from fking that was dried. funny thing is that i had been doing the more agreessing lets sex at that time and she really wanted me not to see that and almost begged to go shower first.. That time unfortunatly fits exactly with the need for a plan b... and the story of location durring that day was suspect. Again... no real proof and there was no ***, so it is perfectly possible that sort of discharge just happens and there is no law against getting excited some time. If use a condom, no need for the pill. Of course there is all the other days...What about marks in the body? Scratches, bruises? Does her clothes smell? Does he or she drive an SUV or van where they can fvck?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
-not same effects at ovulation time.How did you teach that conclusion?
She has a lover dude... stop living in denial.no marks, no smell. yes on the type of car. at the beggining of the year there was a suspiciouse bruise.. but none since then. there was a day in about a month or two ago that by chance I ended up seeing the panty. was full of the same white film that we get on our dyk from fking that was dried. funny thing is that i had been doing the more agreessing lets sex at that time and she really wanted me not to see that and almost begged to go shower first.. That time unfortunatly fits exactly with the need for a plan b... and the story of location durring that day was suspect. Again... no real proof and there was no ***, so it is perfectly possible that sort of discharge just happens and there is no law against getting excited some time. If use a condom, no need for the pill. Of course there is all the other days...
Is the person of interest new in her/your life or she/you have known him for years? If so, how long have you known him? Give me her DOB? Is he older, same or younger age than your wife? Is he married?-not same effects at ovulation time.
-vomit several times
-complain of nausea
-diarrhea
-supper tired
-bloating
-complaining of not feeling well
-late period (she is nervous at that time and saving the items)
-Spotting before period
-Extra supper emotional, much stronger
-not want to visit Dr.
-- of course deny it. claims must be menopause or something else
Again, I looked every place for something to see. Nothing...
Started washing panty n shower...
will love to find him.She has a lover dude... stop living in denial.
So you don't know him?will love to find him.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.