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HB 7 date lasted 2 hours, went well tonight. Was I friend zoned?

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Doesn't it make you feel good to find out these red-flags and knowing that you are better than these girls. Must have a sense of relief once you uncover the truth of some of these HBs. Although it's a short-lived one.

You should say what is on your mind to have some guts. You don't have to insult the girl but use some tasteful wit to deliver what may be a disagreement. If you are too soft and worried about what she thinks then you get friendzoned because you are not presenting a challenge enough.

It is a test.

If I were you, I show my walk away power to the bytch. I ask her out when she is back after the 4 days.
Question: is she texting you? Are you in contact with her? Is she a mother?
Anyway, I would ask her out again during the last quarter cycle of the moon. I guarantee you she will accept you. For now begin to plan where you will take her.
Question: how did you 2 meet? Work, online dating, introduced by friend? How????
You mean the one from earlier in the summer I just described about the teaching job? I met her on match.

The one I went out with on Tue I met on facebook dating app. No, both of them no kids.
 

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You mean the one from earlier in the summer I just described about the teaching job? I met her on match.

The one I went out with on Tue I met on facebook dating app. No, both of them no kids.
Ok, so both are from online dating. No, I was referring to the latest date. The former trooper.
 

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You mean the one from earlier in the summer I just described about the teaching job? I met her on match.

The one I went out with on Tue I met on facebook dating app. No, both of them no kids.
Also, I don't believe you were friendzone. It is impossible to establish friendship on a single encounter. Just ask her out when she gets back from trip.
 

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You mean the one from earlier in the summer I just described about the teaching job? I met her on match.

The one I went out with on Tue I met on facebook dating app. No, both of them no kids.
Does she have pictures in police uniform? Have you done a Google search using her name?
 
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Stop entertaining him. He's lost. No disrespect, but he couldn't find his way around a lady if Casanova gave him step-by-step instructions in his ear. He's only going to learn by his own trial, error and many failures. Failures (and pain) are our best teachers in life.
 

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Here is her reply about going out this weekend for a drink. She's going on a trip late next week to Ohio for a few days. Does she sound sincere about meeting again or will flake and will just use excuses until she just ghosts? I said I'd get back with her on Sunday about it. If she doesn't talk to me until then or reply on Sunday should I just tell her I'm moving on then?

Hey! It was nice meeting you too! We can plan on meeting up. I will just have to play it by ear. So much going on with the house, work, and my trip. But we should be able to meet up for a drink before I leave. [.quote]
 

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Here is her reply about going out this weekend for a drink. She's going on a trip late next week to Ohio for a few days. Does she sound sincere about meeting again or will flake and will just use excuses until she just ghosts? I said I'd get back with her on Sunday about it. If she doesn't talk to me until then or reply on Sunday should I just tell her I'm moving on then?
Go for it. There seems to be a connection. Don't be negative. Forget about age and being older. Loneliness is worse.

Just be mindful of her schedule.
You can get this girl. Thereafter, you can start looking for another one, maybe younger. Be positive.
 

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Go for it. There seems to be a connection. Don't be negative. Forget about age and being older. Loneliness is worse.

Just be mindful of her schedule.
You can get this girl. Thereafter, you can start looking for another one, maybe younger. Be positive.
So if I message her Sat night or Sun morning and she doesn't reply back or is shifty should I just be honest and ask about her interest level so that way I can move on and not play games on both our parts?

She is a borderline HB7. She's got a pretty face and a really nice smile and is 5-7 and big bone frame. I mean not fat, but you know what I mean just bigger bone frame and could maybe lose 10lbs. Very low end HB7 though. Her facebook pics she's in better shape but it only shows a few pics from 4 years ago. On the date though she has a nice personality. Kind of shy though but has a good personality and overrides the low end HB7 and the bit bigger bone frame part with the personality. However she seriously says she doesn't rush into relatiohships and said she hates OLD because guys are pervs and looking for sex and she's quite clear she isn't that way and only friends at first. She's very Christian.

So if we do go out for the second date I guess I do need to try making out with her then and push the touching and that more? I mean, I'm not going to keep going out if she only wants to be friends. Just a way to have an expensive friend and nothing in return.

If she does flake would you lose a ton of sleep over an low end HB7 from OLD? I'm just barely 5-9 but I'm really slim. I prefer slim girls with slim legs and trim and fit. Why do these girls seem to be so hard to find around here? I hardly see them and I certainly rarely see them on OLD down here. That HB9.5 I went on a date with from match fits that description totally. Literally one of the hottest girls within 60 miles here.
 

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So if I message her Sat night or Sun morning and she doesn't reply back or is shifty should I just be honest and ask about her interest level so that way I can move on and not play games on both our parts?

She is a borderline HB7. She's got a pretty face and a really nice smile and is 5-7 and big bone frame. I mean not fat, but you know what I mean just bigger bone frame and could maybe lose 10lbs. Very low end HB7 though. Her facebook pics she's in better shape but it only shows a few pics from 4 years ago. On the date though she has a nice personality. Kind of shy though but has a good personality and overrides the low end HB7 and the bit bigger bone frame part with the personality. However she seriously says she doesn't rush into relatiohships and said she hates OLD because guys are pervs and looking for sex and she's quite clear she isn't that way and only friends at first. She's very Christian.

So if we do go out for the second date I guess I do need to try making out with her then and push the touching and that more? I mean, I'm not going to keep going out if she only wants to be friends. Just a way to have an expensive friend and nothing in return.

If she does flake would you lose a ton of sleep over an low end HB7 from OLD? I'm just barely 5-9 but I'm really slim. I prefer slim girls with slim legs and trim and fit. Why do these girls seem to be so hard to find around here? I hardly see them and I certainly rarely see them on OLD down here. That HB9.5 I went on a date with from match fits that description totally. Literally one of the hottest girls within 60 miles here.
Ok, I am going to need time to reply to you. First, don't ask a woman about her interest level. That is a test for her. You are testing her...... Think about this...... Think about what will happen if you go out and start asking all women is the mall. Do you like me? Do you love me????? Think about that???? No.. You just ask her out and that is it. I will tell you more later.
 

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So if I message her Sat night or Sun morning and she doesn't reply back or is shifty should I just be honest and ask about her interest level so that way I can move on and not play games on both our parts?

When was the last time she texted you? I need time and date. Do not ask such questions about interest level Pal. Can you fvcking read her last text???? She seems to be ok about going out. Why did she text you???? Because you texted her.... I wouldnt have texted her so soon but you already did.

She is a borderline HB7. She's got a pretty face and a really nice smile and is 5-7 and big bone frame. I mean not fat, but you know what I mean just bigger bone frame and could maybe lose 10lbs. Very low end HB7 though. Her facebook pics she's in better shape but it only shows a few pics from 4 years ago. On the date though she has a nice personality. Kind of shy though but has a good personality and overrides the low end HB7 and the bit bigger bone frame part with the personality. However she seriously says she doesn't rush into relatiohships and said she hates OLD because guys are pervs and looking for sex and she's quite clear she isn't that way and only friends at first. She's very Christian.

How you know she is Christian....? Even the NAZlS were Christians. Blah blah blah blah.... Look pal. Let me tell you this. If that bytch was born in 1980. She was born under the Chinese year of the monkey.... She is triky....... Some guy like me would not want her in my proximity.....

So if we do go out for the second date I guess I do need to try making out with her then and push the touching and that more? I mean, I'm not going to keep going out if she only wants to be friends. Just a way to have an expensive friend and nothing in return.


Only a kiss in the mouth. Don't be touching azz, or grabbing waist, don't need to grab
Hands neither. No. She is not going to have you waiting.....but she is not going to die for you neither.....

If she does flake would you lose a ton of sleep over an low end HB7 from OLD? I'm just barely 5-9 but I'm really slim. I prefer slim girls with slim legs and trim and fit. Why do these girls seem to be so hard to find around here? I hardly see them and I certainly rarely see them on OLD down here. That HB9.5 I went on a date with from match fits that description totally. Literally one of the hottest girls within 60 miles here.

ok? Did you fvck her???? The HB9.5???? I don't know where you live, so I cannot relate. Trim girl, fit girl, fat girl, short girl, tall bytch..... Don't mean shlt. The orgasm will tell you if you like her or not.

also, you need to know how that woman likes to be ****ed.
 

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So if I message her Sat night or Sun morning and she doesn't reply back or is shifty should I just be honest and ask about her interest level so that way I can move on and not play games on both our parts?

When was the last time she texted you? I need time and date. Do not ask such questions about interest level Pal. Can you fvcking read her last text???? She seems to be ok about going out. Why did she text you???? Because you texted her.... I wouldnt have texted her so soon but you already did.

She is a borderline HB7. She's got a pretty face and a really nice smile and is 5-7 and big bone frame. I mean not fat, but you know what I mean just bigger bone frame and could maybe lose 10lbs. Very low end HB7 though. Her facebook pics she's in better shape but it only shows a few pics from 4 years ago. On the date though she has a nice personality. Kind of shy though but has a good personality and overrides the low end HB7 and the bit bigger bone frame part with the personality. However she seriously says she doesn't rush into relatiohships and said she hates OLD because guys are pervs and looking for sex and she's quite clear she isn't that way and only friends at first. She's very Christian.
How you know she is Christian....? Even the NAZlS were Christians. Blah blah blah blah.... Look pal. Let me tell you this. If that bytch was born in 1980. She was born under the Chinese year of the monkey.... She is triky....... Some guy like me would not want her in my proximity.....

So if we do go out for the second date I guess I do need to try making out with her then and push the touching and that more? I mean, I'm not going to keep going out if she only wants to be friends. Just a way to have an expensive friend and nothing in return.

Only a kiss in the mouth. Don't be touching azz, or grabbing waist, don't need to grab
Hands neither. No. She is not going to have you waiting.....but she is not going to die for you neither.....

If she does flake would you lose a ton of sleep over an low end HB7 from OLD? I'm just barely 5-9 but I'm really slim. I prefer slim girls with slim legs and trim and fit. Why do these girls seem to be so hard to find around here? I hardly see them and I certainly rarely see them on OLD down here. That HB9.5 I went on a date with from match fits that description totally. Literally one of the hottest girls within 60 miles here.

ok? Did you fvck her???? The HB9.5???? I don't know where you live, so I cannot relate. Trim girl, fit girl, fat girl, short girl, tall bytch..... Don't mean shlt. The orgasm will tell you if you like her or not.

also, you need to know how that woman likes to be ****ed.
After the date Tue night I texted her saying I got home safe (25 mile drive, rural road) and said I enjoyed my time with her and she said she had a great time with me too and said maybe next time she will drive up to see me. I replied back saying I'd love to hangout again sometime and glad to meet you and she said "me too and have a great night." She goes to bed early. Since I didn't text her yesterday and she didn't text me at all so today is when I decided to text her back about meeting again for a drink. This time she kept the texts short again and didn't get as chatty as before the date. Why after teh date they don't go on and on in text messages? Is it because they already met me? She was more to the point in the text message I posted.

So do you think she's serious or just trying to brush me off thinking I'll just eventually lose interest? Before the date when we were texting about meeting she said she wanted to meet that way to see if there is chemistry to get that out of the way to see if basically it's wasting time or not talking. Since she was straight forward with that I figure she would have been direct and said she wasn't interested.

I also don't want to call her out if she doesn't reply by Sun. Maybe Sat just ask her how things are going at work and that and such? That way I'm not asking about the second date again, BUT I'm still keeping me on her mind and she obviously sees I'm showing interest in her.
 

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One thing ive learned that dinner dates are too far bad on the 1st dates when you want to bang her. So far all of my dinner dates didnt materialize.

Usually in dating sites.

1. I tell them that in too busy on my hustle and my business needs attention and i only go out at night.
2. They will ask me "where do we go, mostly restaurants are close by that time?". All i have to say is.. " Dont worry, i will lead and take you where i want us to go". Usually the become excited at this time even tho we chatted less than 10 messages.
3. If she agreed to be with me. Ill guage it 1st if she will be hesitant. If she gave a hint even a little bit, i would go for the kill.
4. My 1st date ideas are...if there are no places we could go alone and talk, i just buy cheap food and talk and eat on the car. I usually take them on the beach on night time and walk on the seashore, or just watch the cars on the road and talk.
5. I am confident enough on whatever game that i will take because women are predictable if they join you to go out late at night. That is why.. i always ask them if they are avail during that time.
6. The last point i want to drop on this post is... it always works on girls if you already figure it out on whats your direction on your life is going to be. If women doesnt on you on youre endeavors... its always next.

My english is bad. This is not my native language. But i guess i said my point enough. Just dont spend much on the 1st date. Just be creative and banter your way into their panties.
 

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I already know distance is slaughtering me in OLD. Most of the women I message are over 25 miles away sometimes over 50. There just isnt a lot around me. My county has literally no one on there. Even then my response rate to read messages on match and that is about 10 percent which is still above average and hb7 is the very min I message. Even then very slim pickings within 60 miles which I'm I'm shocked it's even 10 percent. If I was in a big city I already know my reply rate would be higher and would be easier to set up dates so close by. Hard to set up a quick drink date if they're 50 miles away. My county has 260k. Yet is the oldest county in the state so hardly any young singles.
 

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One thing ive learned that dinner dates are too far bad on the 1st dates when you want to bang her. So far all of my dinner dates didnt materialize.

Usually in dating sites.

1. I tell them that in too busy on my hustle and my business needs attention and i only go out at night.
2. They will ask me "where do we go, mostly restaurants are close by that time?". All i have to say is.. " Dont worry, i will lead and take you where i want us to go". Usually the become excited at this time even tho we chatted less than 10 messages.
3. If she agreed to be with me. Ill guage it 1st if she will be hesitant. If she gave a hint even a little bit, i would go for the kill.
4. My 1st date ideas are...if there are no places we could go alone and talk, i just buy cheap food and talk and eat on the car. I usually take them on the beach on night time and walk on the seashore, or just watch the cars on the road and talk.
5. I am confident enough on whatever game that i will take because women are predictable if they join you to go out late at night. That is why.. i always ask them if they are avail during that time.
6. The last point i want to drop on this post is... it always works on girls if you already figure it out on whats your direction on your life is going to be. If women doesnt on you on youre endeavors... its always next.

My english is bad. This is not my native language. But i guess i said my point enough. Just dont spend much on the 1st date. Just be creative and banter your way into their panties.
I don't take any bytch out at night near the beach. That I s freaking creepy.
I don't take em to expensive dinners either. You can take em to the casinos. They have free drinks there. You can drink one or two beers for free while playing the slots machine.
Also, they ain't gonna sit next to me in my car. That is not happening on my first date.
The first date depends on how well you know the girl and how well she knows you. How you two met, in college,work, thru a friend, shopping mall. No bycht you met online is gonna sit next to you in your car at night near the beach...... Unless, she has more fingers than teeth.
 

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I don't take any bytch out at night near the beach. That I s freaking creepy.
I don't take em to expensive dinners either. You can take em to the casinos. They have free drinks there. You can drink one or two beers for free while playing the slots machine.
Also, they ain't gonna sit next to me in my car. That is not happening on my first date.
The first date depends on how well you know the girl and how well she knows you. How you two met, in college,work, thru a friend, shopping mall. No bycht you met online is gonna sit next to you in your car at night near the beach...... Unless, she has more fingers than teeth.
True. Even on the guys side. I mean down here once in awhile you hear about a guy getting robbed from an OLD date because it's a setup.

Anyway, Is it okay to text her daily just to chit chat or wait until Sunday to see how things are going? if I text her daily to BS would she see that as needy or annoying possibly? I mean don't text her until later in the weekend like I told her regarding possibly going out before her trip.
 

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True. Even on the guys side. I mean down here once in awhile you hear about a guy getting robbed from an OLD date because it's a setup.

Anyway, Is it okay to text her daily just to chit chat or wait until Sunday to see how things are going? if I text her daily to BS would she see that as needy or annoying possibly? I mean don't text her until later in the weekend like I told her regarding possibly going out before her trip.
Don't text her daily. Text only if she replies.
Question, who texted last? When, what day, time?
 

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Don't text her daily. Text only if she replies.
Question, who texted last? When, what day, time?
Yesterday about going out again. After she replied I said I'd contact her again later in the weekend and she said ok.
 
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