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The last couple of months have been hard for me. I've been having some depression problems and a little bit of anxiety. I'm determined to push through it. I have been slowly making progress. The last few days, I have actually started to feel a little bit happy again. I know I can get through this on my own. I have identified some of my problems and solutions to them. I have been thinking about signing up for yoga or something else to get myself to wake up at a reasonable time on the weekends and face the world. The weekend seems to be when I have my biggest problems with depression. I think it is because I have no real reason to get myself up and out of the house. I never thought I would have problems like this.

I think many things have contributed to my mental health problems. I'm embarrassed to admit that from Jan - (2nd week of) May I was doing coke a couple times a week. I partially blame my cousin who lives next door. But, it was my choice because he didn't hold a gun to my head. My cousin makes good money and has an addiction to escorts & coke. He luckily is out of town till sometime in Sept, so I haven't had free coke put in front of my face. I can tell you that I do not want anything to do with coke again. I'm going to college online in fall and I'm done with everything but alcohol. Coke makes you feel happy and messes up your brain chemistry that makes you feel happiness. Now, my body has to start producing those chemicals again.

I've been really struggling with not going back to my ex again. We have been on and off for the last yr and half. It will be the same stuff over again if I go back. I also just started working out again. I had pulled my shoulder and had to take 3 months off.

I really think its a combo of everything thats happened lately that has caused my depression. Coke, not being able to work out, and the final breakup with my ex gf.

When I look back at how I was doing last year with game and my life, its like night and day. I'm a shell of the man I used to be. But, I will come back and come back even better then I ever was.

I have been going out a little bit here and there to clubs but I have barely anyone to go out with now. They aren't the best wings. When I do go out, I have been doing one approach or none. I think the depression has messed up my confidence.

My new goals:
-Beat depression
-Stay busy
-Get back in shape
-Restore confidence
-Stay drug free
-Do good in college
-Find better wings/friends
-Improve style/clothes
-Learn to not give a f*ck

I know I haven't stuck to all my goals before but some of these a very important. I really want to do good in college, so I can get a better job and make more money. I joined a group that is a off shoot of rsd inner cirlcle for my city. I'm going out with some of them to clubs tonight. It will be nice to have some guys that will push me harder then the guys I usually go out with. I usually don't get this personal on here but it felt good to type all this out. Big thanks to everyone who supports me on here. I'm going to do it big this year! No one will stop me!
 
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Those are some positive goals. I wish you the best in achieving them.

Perhaps something to think about that will make your chances of achieving them higher: think about the underlying values that are guiding them. I was seeing a therapist to work through some thoughts I was having and they suggested living according to my values rather than my goals.

ie; 'I am going to the gym today because I believe being physically active is good for my health' versus 'I will never squat 500 lbs if I don't do this, this and this in the gym today'.
 

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I went out last night to the clubs with a huge group of guys who are all into game. We broke off into smaller groups and hit 3 different clubs. It was really crowded and I lost my wings several times. I did the most approaches I have ever done in a night. I'll do my best to break them down. I was drinking (not heavily) so I might not remember everything from last night.

Approach #1
2 Hispanic girls
I opened the hot one who had a really nice big booty in some tight white jeans. I had a wing with me and he opened the other girl. We could tell they weren't interested from the start, so we ejected.

Approach #2
4 Hispanic girls
This was probably my best one of the night. I was alone and didn't know where my wings were. I approached the set and opened the one I wanted. She had a black dress on. She was really receptive and very nice to me. The conversation was going really good until one of the other girls pulled her away and cVck blocked me. I tried to talk a little before that happened to the rest of the set, but it was difficult because of how loud the music was in the club.

Approach #3
3 Asian girls
This was probably my 2nd best approach of the night. This time, I had a wing with me. I opened the set, brought him in, and introduced him to them. I then started talking to my target. The conversation went well, but it turned out she was from out of town and was visiting her friend. I eventually ejected. I could tell she wouldn't have left her friends and there was no point in going for the number when she is from out of town.

Approach #4
5 White girls
I saw this girl standing off to the side of her friends. She wasn't talking to anyone and looked bored. I had no wing and I approached her. I told her she looked bored and asked why. I had her laughing and it was going good until I got cVck blocked by her friend. She saw her talking to me and pulled her away. CVck blocked again.

Approach #5
2 Hispanic girls (w/1 guy)
I saw the set and figured out right away what girl the guy was with. I approached the one he wasn't with and introduced myself. She was nice about it but told me her boyfriend was at the bar getting her a drink. The guy told me she was taken. I was polite about it and ejected.

Approach #6
1 Hispanic girl & 1 Black girl
This was at a different club then the first 5 approaches. I saw a cute hispanic girl come out of the bathroom with a black girl. I approached the hispanic girl and she was receptive. Before I could even try to be cool with her friend, the friend ripped her away from me. CVck blocked yet again.

Approach #7
1 Black girl
It was close to let out. I found one of my wings and we both did a little street game. I saw this black girl in a nice dress standing alone. I'm not usually into black girls, but I thought why not. I approached and asked if she lost her friends. She said she did. I don't think she actually did. We talked for a little bit and then she said "you want to get out of here? you will have to pay me for my time though." It turns out she was an escort. I declined the offer and politely ejected. About 15 mins later I saw her leaving with some white guy lol. I guess he was desperate enough to pay.

Approach #8
2 White girls
I saw them messing around on there phones outside. I approached them and they told me to keep moving. I told them "your loss" and I walked away. I've been told worse before, so it didn't phase me.

Approach #9
1 Hispanic girl & 1 White girl
This was also outside. I approached them with my wing. I opened the set. They were receptive and we had them laughing. The white girl said they were getting picked up by her boyfriend soon. I wasn't even really interested, so I didn't go for the number. We were polite and ejected.

After my last approach, it was let out and I was getting tired. We ran into the rest of the guys from the group. We all talked a little bit about the night and then I went home. I had a good time and I keep feeling happier which means I'm beating my depression. I'm in a pretty good mood today too. I am going to continue to go out and keep pushing myself.

I need to work on eye contact and my conversation skills. I got cVck blocked several times and I need to make sure I have a wing with me at all times to help with this. I didn't get any numbers and I didn't pull, but that's fine with me. I used to always go for the number in the club no matter what but the numbers would rarely pan out. Now, I only ask if I see enough interest from the girl.
 
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I had a date last night with a 27 yr old Hispanic girl that I met on Tinder. She looked just as good as her pictures, but maybe even better. I met her at this upscale bar for drinks. I have used this bar plenty of times for past OLD dates, so kind of feel at home there. I got there a little early like I usually would and got a spot near the end of the bar. When she arrived she immediately gave me a hug. The conversation went really well. She can speak really good english but she has kind of a mexican accent when she talks. Nothing wrong with that, I kind of thought it was hot. It turns out she just moved to the US from Mexico 2.5 months ago. She already has family that live here but she has no friends and doesn't know anybody besides her family. We had one drink each and then decided to walk around for a little bit (the bar is at an outdoor mall). We walked around, I held her hand and even had my arm around her for a little while. I walked her to her car and we hugged. When we hugged she kissed me on the neck, so I just went in for the kiss and we ended up kissing a lot. I'm going to text her later. I have a good feeling about this one.
 

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I went out to the clubs with some guys last night. I didn't do as many approaches as last time. But, the ones last night went a lot better. I'm starting to get better at socializing again and I made sure I made better eye contact this time. Plus, it was nice to have some good wings around.

Approach #1
2 Hispanic girls
We started out at this upstairs bar before we went to some clubs. We had just finished shooting a game of pool. I saw these 2 Hispanic girls sit down at the bar. Once of them was really cute and the other one was okay. I approached and started talking to both of them. Then one of the guys I went out with saw what I was doing, walked over, and started to wing me with the other girl. I then concentrated on the cute one. Conversation went well and I had her laughing a lot. She seemed into me, so I got her number.

Approach #2
2 White girls (w/1 guy)
This was at a club and the rest of my approaches were at clubs. I saw a mixed set. I figured out which girl the guy was with. I approached the one who looked to be single. She ended up being married and had a ring on. She was very nice about it and the guy never said anything to me. I walked away.

Approach #3
2 White girls
One of my friends started talking to her friend. He then told her friend "have you met Young OG"? So, then I started talking to her. I could tell she wasn't really interested, so the conversation kind of fizzled out. Not sure if I should count this as an approach, but whatever.

Approach #4
4-5 Hispanic girls (w/1 guy)
We saw this set at a bottle service table. I said I would open. I walked up and opened up 2 of the girls who were talking with each other. Then 2 of my friends moved in and started talking to 2 of the girls. I focused on my target. We ended up sitting down at the table with them. The guy didn't seem to care and didn't say anything to us. All the girls we were talking to seemed pretty into us. The one I was talking to ended up being married. I think she was or is close to cheating. She was telling me about how she hates her husband and can't stand him. We hung out there for a pretty long time with them. I tried to pull the one I was talking to but she turned down the offer. I didn't really care, I had nothing to loose. We decided to go to one last club before closing.

Approach #5
2 Hispanic girls
When we got into line at the next club, these 2 Hispanic girls got into line behind us. I turned around and opened them. One of my friends started winging me with her friend. She seemed to be interested, but not as hooked as the girl from my first approach. I did have her laughing and she was receptive. I asked for her number but she insisted that she gives me her Snapchat. She ended up adding me and then I added her. It was bar close shortly after.

Most of the time when I get numbers or Snapchats from the club, they usually go nowhere. I'll still hit these girls up, but its better to expect nothing then get my hopes up. I'm going to continue to go out and keep improving my game.


In other news, the girl from my last date/post ended up rejecting me. Its crazy because I've had OLD dates that I thought went worse and I ended up seeing the girl again. She fed me some BS excuse that she didn't feel a connection with me. I never replied back to the text. I guess thats what I get for thinking the date went so well. No more jumping the gun like that again.
 

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In other news, the girl from my last date/post ended up rejecting me. Its crazy because I've had OLD dates that I thought went worse and I ended up seeing the girl again. She fed me some BS excuse that she didn't feel a connection with me. I never replied back to the text. I guess thats what I get for thinking the date went so well. No more jumping the gun like that again.
She could have actually had a nice time with you but then had other guys lined up. Or she could have been faking it, or just entertained herself for an evening (especially if you paid). You don't know... which is why I like to advice guys to never say "we" had a good time or "she" enjoyed it as you really don't know this until she begs you for more c0ck. Just keep a cool head and don't jump any guns.

Nice approaches dude, it's nice to see you getting back into shape with this.
 

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She could have actually had a nice time with you but then had other guys lined up. Or she could have been faking it, or just entertained herself for an evening (especially if you paid). You don't know... which is why I like to advice guys to never say "we" had a good time or "she" enjoyed it as you really don't know this until she begs you for more c0ck. Just keep a cool head and don't jump any guns.

Nice approaches dude, it's nice to see you getting back into shape with this.
It could be a lot of reasons but it's best not to over analyze it and just keep moving. We only had one drink each. It did pay but it wasn't much money. I'm definetly done jumping the gun.
 

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Last night, I had a plate over that I haven't talked seen since January. She text me earlier in the week out of nowhere. We went to the bar down the street from my place and drank. Then we went back to my place after. It was nice being able to smash and break my dry spell. She asked to start out doggy lol. I'll bang her again but not sure when. She has always been an off and on kind of plate.

I'm headed out to the clubs tonight with the boys. FR coming tomorrow.
 

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Last night, I had a plate over that I haven't talked seen since January. She text me earlier in the week out of nowhere. We went to the bar down the street from my place and drank. Then we went back to my place after. It was nice being able to smash and break my dry spell. She asked to start out doggy lol. I'll bang her again but not sure when. She has always been an off and on kind of plate.

I'm headed out to the clubs tonight with the boys. FR coming tomorrow.
Nice dude. I'm right there with you with getting in more approaches.

Have you ever considered Daygame? I've been dabbling in that a bit more lately
 

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Regarding my last post, I didn't do a FR from that night at the club. We got there kind of late, I wasn't in a good mind frame, and did only a small amount of approaches. No number closes or pulls.

The plate from my last post pissed me off. This is how our text exchange last week went:
Me: We should hang out this weekend
Her: I'm busy Friday
Me: Sat night works for me
Her: I'm not sure yet. I will have to let you know
Me: Your not sure yet? You will have to let me know? No thanks
Her: My friend is coming into town from another state. He doesn't know if he will be here Sat or Sun yet. But, okay

I didn't respond. I haven't text her and she hasn't text me. She has pissed me off in the past, so I don't really care anymore about her. I'm not going to be a back up plan or second choice.

Friday night I had a date with a 33 yr old Hispanic girl I met online. I usually don't like girls that old, but she looked good for her age. Met her at the usual bar, walked around afterwards, kissed her by her car. She ghosted me the next day. Nothing new lately...

I honestly am starting to get sick and tired of women lately. It seems that they all end up screwing me over eventually (besides my last ex). In the last few years, I have been on countless dates, and have gotten countless numbers. I've been having horrible luck on OLD this year and I'm sick of getting numbers at clubs that go nowhere. It seems like with the clubs, if you don't take them home that night, you will never see or hear from them again.

Sometimes, its really hard for me to decide what I want. I thought I wanted to settle down when I was with my last ex, but I wanted to be a player too. Its so hard to find a good woman nowadays. I'm really leaning towards just settling down now. I'm 37 and my hair has been thinning out for the last 4 years. I'm starting to have regrets about letting my last ex go. We got into another fight and I didn't attempt to fix things. I could have reached out to her, but I didn't. She can be really hard to deal with at times and gets mad easily. Maybe its cause shes hispanic. I know Latinas can be hard to deal with. Besides that, she was supportive, loyal, and trustworthy. She would have never left me unless I beat her or cheated.

Now for the good news. Last week, I started going to college online for an IT degree. I'm really excited about it. I'm doing good so far and I even quit smoking weed for school.

Nice dude. I'm right there with you with getting in more approaches.

Have you ever considered Daygame? I've been dabbling in that a bit more lately
I don't have the chance to do a lot of day game. During the week I work and have my kid. The weekends can be kind of busy. If I'm at a store or something I might get in a approach. But, day game can be very low volume unless you are on a college campus or on a busy downtown street.
 
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Since my last post, I tried to make things work with my ex again. That was a big mistake (go figure). It only last around 4 weeks. We got into a fight about something that happened between my daughter and hers. She told me I couldn't bring my daughter over there for a while, called her a brat, and was basically telling me I raised her bad. This really made me mad. I hung up on her. We talked later that night and she told me that if I try to contact her again that she will get a restraining order on me. I said "fVck you, you stupid aVs bVtch" and hung up on her. I guess that's over for good this time. One of the reasons I went back with her is because I could trust her and she was loyal. But, there are too many cons that outweigh the pros. She is really hard to deal with. I don't know how any man could honestly put up with her. She always thinks she's right and nothing I do or say is ever right. I find it really hard to trust women nowadays because of all the stuff I've seen and has happened to me.

I know this is probably better for me in the long run. Between working full time, going to college online full time, and taking care of my kid during the week, I don't have time for much. Seeing her alongside all of that, was starting to burn me out. I get a lot of homework and it can be really stressful. I'm going to just keep moving with my life and get this degree. If I end up alone for the rest of my life, so be it. At least I'll eventually have a good job with money to spend on myself and my daughter.
 

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Since my last post, I tried to make things work with my ex again. That was a big mistake (go figure). It only last around 4 weeks. We got into a fight about something that happened between my daughter and hers. She told me I couldn't bring my daughter over there for a while, called her a brat, and was basically telling me I raised her bad. This really made me mad. I hung up on her. We talked later that night and she told me that if I try to contact her again that she will get a restraining order on me. I said "fVck you, you stupid aVs bVtch" and hung up on her. I guess that's over for good this time. One of the reasons I went back with her is because I could trust her and she was loyal. But, there are too many cons that outweigh the pros. She is really hard to deal with. I don't know how any man could honestly put up with her. She always thinks she's right and nothing I do or say is ever right. I find it really hard to trust women nowadays because of all the stuff I've seen and has happened to me.

I know this is probably better for me in the long run. Between working full time, going to college online full time, and taking care of my kid during the week, I don't have time for much. Seeing her alongside all of that, was starting to burn me out. I get a lot of homework and it can be really stressful. I'm going to just keep moving with my life and get this degree. If I end up alone for the rest of my life, so be it. At least I'll eventually have a good job with money to spend on myself and my daughter.
Sorry to hear about your ex dude. How's college treating you? I think we're in a pretty similar field if I remember correctly.
 

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Never go through the trash broh
Ejaculate and evacuate with them
Get that paper while you at it
Eventually we are all going to die alone
 

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Sorry to hear about your ex dude. How's college treating you? I think we're in a pretty similar field if I remember correctly.
Thanks. I'll get over her eventually. It's a lot of work going online. Luckily, I get off work around 2pm usually so I can go to the open lab if I need help with any assignments. I'm going for Computer Information Systems, which is an IT degree.
 

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Me: We should hang out this weekend
Her: I'm busy Friday
Me: Sat night works for me
Her: I'm not sure yet. I will have to let you know
Me: Your not sure yet? You will have to let me know? No thanks
Her: My friend is coming into town from another state. He doesn't know if he will be here Sat or Sun yet. But, okay
This is bad. You went all butthurt and lost your temper. The proper response would be to take away with "that's OK, let's just meet some other time then, when your schedule will be more stable". After that you don't contact her for a week before offering a new date on a workday (because weekends are reserved for better prospects who proved their worth to you). This will show her that you have other, possibly better options. I read this in Corey Wayne's book How to be a 3% Man and he has a good strategy for weeding out women who have low interest and building a nice, easy and healthy LTR with those who have high interest in you. Clubs are dead, OLD is for younger audience and married cheaters who are looking for just sex.

You have a really short temper and that's bad. Don't let women get under your skin. When they manage to do it, they lose respect for you.

Also, I side with latino on your conflict. Just because she liked you doesn't mean she must like your kid (and besides kids can be real brats sometimes). She was wrong badmouthing your kid though, but you were double wrong responding so emotionally. Set your kid apart from your relationship life, at least for the first several months. And don't go back to your ex, that's a given.
 

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This is bad. You went all butthurt and lost your temper. The proper response would be to take away with "that's OK, let's just meet some other time then, when your schedule will be more stable". After that you don't contact her for a week before offering a new date on a workday (because weekends are reserved for better prospects who proved their worth to you). This will show her that you have other, possibly better options. I read this in Corey Wayne's book How to be a 3% Man and he has a good strategy for weeding out women who have low interest and building a nice, easy and healthy LTR with those who have high interest in you. Clubs are dead, OLD is for younger audience and married cheaters who are looking for just sex.

You have a really short temper and that's bad. Don't let women get under your skin. When they manage to do it, they lose respect for you.

Also, I side with latino on your conflict. Just because she liked you doesn't mean she must like your kid (and besides kids can be real brats sometimes). She was wrong badmouthing your kid though, but you were double wrong responding so emotionally. Set your kid apart from your relationship life, at least for the first several months. And don't go back to your ex, that's a given.
I know what I did with that plate was not how your supposed to handle it. I learned that ages ago. I don't know if you had read, but I said she has pissed me off in the past. She's an immature 21 yr old, who is somewhat of a slVt. I knew I wasn't going to talk to her again after that, so I didn't care. If she contacts me again, I'm ghosting. I had nothing to lose. I don't do workday dates. I have my kid during the week and I start work really early in the morning. Weekends are the only free time I get. But, I do appreciate you trying to help me. No offense, but there are plenty of other people I would listen to over Corey Wayne. Clubs are fun to practice game and hang out with the boys. I like younger women, so OLD is good for me then, and I'll bang a married chick because I don't give a F.

I can have a bad temper at times. I only show it with women when I know I'm done with them and it won't matter anymore.

Maybe I handled my Latina ex wrong, maybe I didn't. I knew it was done for good this time. No offense, you really have no idea what your talking about with this one. You really don't know how she acts. We have been on and off for almost 2 years. So, its kind of hard for both of us to keep our kids apart from the relationship. She has bad mouthed my kid in the past too, I had enough of it. Plus, her badmouthing my parenting put me over the edge. The way I responded was kind of like how I felt when I responded to that plate, I didn't care anymore and knew I was done with her. But, like I said earlier I do appreciate you trying to help me.

On another note, I went out to the clubs with the boys last night. I had a good time. I feel a lot better now that I don't take the clubs as serious. Now that I accepted that numbers don't mean anything there and that you should only go for the pull, its been a real eye opener for me. I used to think I had somewhat of a chance finding a new girlfriend at the club, which is pretty funny to me now that I think about it. I did a lot of approaches but I'm not going to break them down. I winged my friends a lot with girls I didn't want. I only got rejected hard one time and a couple soft rejections. I was nice about it and told them it was nice meeting them. I didn't really see a lot of Latina's out which kind of sucked. But, I will bang other races too, there just not my preference. One thing I noticed is that my conversation skills need work again. I got lazy when I was back with my ex and wasn't very talkative in my day to day life. I'm going to have to start conversing more with others again like I had did in the past.
 

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Good to see your mood improving. I'm not offended at all. I'm a bit new to all this PUA/Red Pill stuff, so right now I'm mostly regurgitating stuff that I've read that had some support from the audience. Could you please share those names you would listen to over Corey Wayne? I would really appreciate some references to expand my knowledge base.
 

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Good to see your mood improving. I'm not offended at all. I'm a bit new to all this PUA/Red Pill stuff, so right now I'm mostly regurgitating stuff that I've read that had some support from the audience. Could you please share those names you would listen to over Corey Wayne? I would really appreciate some references to expand my knowledge base.
No problem. Here you go:

Todd V Dating

Alpha Male Strategies (AMS)

Based Zeus
 

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Thanks. I'll get over her eventually. It's a lot of work going online. Luckily, I get off work around 2pm usually so I can go to the open lab if I need help with any assignments. I'm going for Computer Information Systems, which is an IT degree.
Good field. You can definitely make some money in there.
 
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