"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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"Is it okay if I'm with my friends?"

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Girl on Tinder I was trying to set a first date with asked me that. I already know what I'm going to reply, but I'd like to see your thoughts. I think it's a good topic to discuss on here.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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You hit the nail on the head. She has already said 7 pm is too late. I was thinking, "What is she, 5?" I've got a dozen other women on that app alone messaging me and new matches I haven't messaged. I don't have time for sh1t tests.
 

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The sad thing is if you won’t fall for her shenanigans some thirsty guy will. “Sure that’s fine, bring your friends along!”
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You hit the nail on the head. She has already said 7 pm is too late. I was thinking, "What is she, 5?" I've got a dozen other women on that app alone messaging me and new matches I haven't messaged. I don't have time for sh1t tests.
I think you should've at least humored her (what if she was joking? What if you were really going to get a threesome out of it? What if her friends would leave once she was sure you aren't a serial killer?), Don't have too much confidence in your ability to read minds and intentions, pride goeth before a fall and all that.

Although I would've at least implied that I'm not buying drinks for 2 or 3 girls after my foursome joke lol. From there you can gauge her reactions and intentions.
 

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I think you should've at least humored her (what if she was joking? What if you were really going to get a threesome out of it? What if her friends would leave once she was sure you aren't a serial killer?), Don't have too much confidence in your ability to read minds and intentions, pride goeth before a fall and all that.

Although I would've at least implied that I'm not buying drinks for 2 or 3 girls after my foursome joke lol. From there you can gauge her reactions and intentions.
Not worried about reading her mind
 

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'only if they're fun'
i'd still go and meet them all. the vibe might be dope if they're trying to have a good time. i'd forget about getting with her and use it as an opportunity to let loose, network, and work on social judo, especially if they're cute. who knows as the night goes on one of them might crush on me. if they start to get disrespectful but i like the venue i'd flirt and talk to other people around us. if i'm not diggin the venue either i'd simply say i'm bouncing and go somewhere else if i still feel like being out. obviously i wouldn't pay for anyone other than myself.

my best successes have been from going out on the date and not being outcome focused, simply enjoying myself. i'm laid back, fun, and i dip if the girl keeps making things negative(to me that's an obvious red flag, she's either trying to manipulate or she's not happy in her personal life). this keeps the mind present and my improv is on point. coincidentally this telegraphs an abundance mentality because women have to qualify for me to even stay. i gain skills and experience regardless, win win.
 
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Who's paying for the "date", you? No thanks.

I wonder why she's not so sure about you.
Hmm, I have no idea. It's not normally an issue I have, so I'm not worried about it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Say also after "no" that if you were to ever Commit to a relationship that she could not have a "girls night out" in a known hookup bar and would also have to drop all her "guy" "friends," no meeting up for "lunch" etc etc. See how far that goes with today's women. They do not understand that a fine man can walk around and offer sex to women and get zero responses, whereas a fine woman can walk around and offer sex to men and get a fairly high percentage, like probably 88% married or not.
 

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Make it a group meet.

If you can't bring along some friends or they're not available then drop it.

Just casually mention that you're not interested to be the only guy amongst a group of girls to end up being Mr. Kotex.
 

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I learned the hard way that the only way to respond to insulting requests is to match it with an insulting answer.

"Is it okay if I'm with my friends?"
Fvck NO!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Do one of two things:

1.) Say "What do your friends look like and are they single?"

2.) Set it all up and just flake on her sorry @ss. That way she has plenty of friends that see her waiting for you to walk through the door, which you wont. When she asks you why you didnt show up tell her that "Sorry hun, I got tied up with my friends".

By doing #2 she will either never reach out again or she will have so much respect and more attraction for you that she will probably be dtf asap.

And either is a great outcome if I am in your shoes.
 

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I've always said no in these situations and tell her we would reschedule for another time. But there was one time a chic brought her sister that was visiting from out of town so I brought my friend. It all worked out great and a lot of fun. However it wasn't conducive to anything sexual. I did end up dating the chic.
 

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She has already said 7 pm is too late.
Because she knows what happens with dates in the evening. She disqualified you as a romantic/sexual possibility earlier. The context of this whole discussion is key - do you have it? Somewhere in that is what made her suggest bringing friends and saying 7 is too late.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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