"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Sh0t test maybe

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daygame. Met new girl 2 days ago I'm pretending to be super busy these 3 days.
She asks: "Why so busy?" in Text

I replied: "When people know you it's hard not to be busy sometimes"

If you have a better reply or feedback. Go ahead and post them.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Pretending is a slippery slope. If you're not busy, get busy. I promise there's something you like more than women.

As for her text, it's pretty take it or leave it. Not super conversational, seems more like she's dipping her toes in the water. Which is fine, because you just met.

As for your reply, that sounds pretty canned. It reads like you were thinking about it the entire time you were pretending to be busy, and like you're trying to up your SMV too hard. Don't be afraid to give a one or two word response to a low investment text. I'd have said "Meetings" "Work" or something ridiculous like "no cell service on the hangglider".

There's a wrong and right place for texting, something I'm still figuring out so I'm not the best to give advice there. But initially, I can't recommend enough actually picking up the phone and calling a girl. If she's interested enough, she'll pick up and as long as you have a plan and a time that fits your schedule, it's pretty difficult to **** up.

I realize texting is a good way to break the ice with dating apps, building a bit of comfort and the like. However, since you met in person (given the daygame header), you can skip that nonsense. She'll appreciate you more for it.
 

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blah.. petty stupid games.. too much work.

And your reply sounds snotty and conceited as F. Are you trying to F this girl? or show her how cool you are?

Did you learn this from PUA?

I would say, "Sorry just been busy working... How are you?"

OMG REALNESS IS NOT ALLOWED GOT TO BE SUPER COOL BUSY GUY.
 
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daygame. Met new girl 2 days ago I'm pretending to be super busy these 3 days.
She asks: "Why so busy?" in Text

I replied: "When people know you it's hard not to be busy sometimes"

If you have a better reply or feedback. Go ahead and post them.
That doesn’t make sense.

What does knowing you have to do with being busy? You could have said “when people need you” or “when you make a deal with people”, but knowing someone doesn’t equate to being busy.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm pretending
Lol, good luck with your fake life. Never going to work.

I replied: "When people know you it's hard not to be busy sometimes"
You flat out lied and on top of that your reply is super cringe.

If you have a better reply or feedback. Go ahead and post them.
How about this.
Her: Why so busy?
You: Because I'm a pathetic piece of sh!t who think I need to pretend I'm not interested in order to attract you and tell you lies because my genuine self is inferior.
 

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blah.. petty stupid games.. too much work.

And your reply sounds snotty and conceited as F. Are you trying to F this girl? or show her how cool you are?

Did you learn this from PUA?

I would say, "Sorry just been busy working... How are you?"

OMG REALNESS IS NOT ALLOWED GOT TO BE SUPER COOL BUSY GUY.
2 logical wont work. Read my previous posts.
 

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That doesn’t make sense.

What does knowing you have to do with being busy? You could have said “when people need you” or “when you make a deal with people”, but knowing someone doesn’t equate to being busy.
For example if you are someone famous a lot of people know you and want to hang out with you therefore you are busy. Was that so hard to understand LOL
 

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Lol, good luck with your fake life. Never going to work.


You flat out lied and on top of that your reply is super cringe.


How about this.
Her: Why so busy?
You: Because I'm a pathetic piece of sh!t who think I need to pretend I'm not interested in order to attract you and tell you lies because my genuine self is inferior.
Are you ok? why hating on my post?
 
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2 logical wont work. Read my previous posts.
Yeah making shyt up is a better option? Too logical? You make bad arguments.

It's like your a noob that just started reading manosphere and pua thoeries with like 1 or 2 girlfriend's in your lifetime under your belt.

Noobs need to understand. YOU ARE WORTH IT AS YOU ARE. If she likes you there is ZERO need for mind games, mind games are for WOMEN.

Pretending to be busy comes from insecurity.

TEXT TO SET UP DATES. THAT IS ALL.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Are you ok? why hating on my post?
Not hating your post, just your entire disingenuous interaction with this girl. I'm questioning why you feel the need to pretend and tell lies. If not for a sense of inferiority about your genuine self, then why?
 

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Yeah making shyt up is a better option? Too logical? You make bad arguments.

It's like your a noob that just started reading manosphere and pua thoeries with like 1 or 2 girlfriend's in your lifetime under your belt.

Noobs need to understand. YOU ARE WORTH IT AS YOU ARE. If she likes you there is ZERO need for mind games, mind games are for WOMEN.

Pretending to be busy comes from insecurity.

TEXT TO SET UP DATES. THAT IS ALL.
All my game is natural. I have many daygame lays. I still have no met anyone who has more than me in daygame. Read my previous posts.
 

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Not hating your post, just your entire disingenuous interaction with this girl. I'm questioning why you feel the need to pretend and tell lies. If not for a sense of inferiority about your genuine self, then why?
I told you I just read and copy what people do here.
 

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Have you read Book of Pook
and DJ Bible?

Sorry I have to ask, because for a member from 2008 your post sounds childish. There is so much information and so much you can learn, don't skip these simple steps.
Are saying if i read these two links i would become a Super PUA who can lay thousands of women. I dont believe that.

Also i don't see any link that teaches you how to text.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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That's not a sh!t test.
It's not even a frame test.

There's really not much substance to work with in that one sentence conversation you provided.
She seems interested in you, but I feel like you're projecting a feminine frame to her with that answer.
You don't sound genuine.
 

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Are saying if i read these two links i would become a Super PUA who can lay thousands of women. I dont believe that.
Reading and understanding is two different concepts. You can read same thing more than once and understand it differently. I told you that you need to touch up on basics.


Text game is easy, it has 4 parts to it. Silence, when she is not responding, or responding with one word answers. Sht test is when she is sht testing you, it means she is investing some time into it, it's a good thing. Platonic conversation. Flirting. The way you respond to each one of those is different. Try youtubing texting 101.

Why so busy, depending on context, could have been a sht test, a platonic conversation, or flirting.

With your response you are qualifying yourself to her by projecting your value, as if it was a silence part of texting. If it was a sht test you failed it miserably, since busy people are busy to reply and when they do reply they say something like @MillionBillionaire said in his response. You on the other hand, projected your value.

Give us the entire conversation for more for context.
 

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I asked if she has time to have coffee in the coming days. She replied the following. What do I say now.
It sounds like she doesn't want coffee so I said I'm open for other plans. I also don't drink alcohol. I prefer to avoid it at all cost.
 

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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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