"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Chicks who troll

bacchus

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I’m noticing this as someone older (39) with the younger girls I wheel (20-26 years old).

I was talking to a 23 year old nurse about a month ago, went to set up a date, she didn’t immediately bite, so I nexted.

Just now, a month later, I get a text from her saying “Can I have your autograph?”. Nothing else

I like the younger poon but I have so little patience for their silly games that often come with it.

This isn’t a “how should I respond to her message thread”. I’d just like this bltch to learn some respect. She’s not even close to being on my level. What happened to early 20s girls being sweet and feminine like I remember them being 10 years ago? Did Instagram/social media ruin everything?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Humbleness won’t come until they hit the wall. Even then some women still don’t learn and keep their sky high standards and play foolish games. Women in their 30’s still play the same games, trust me.

I would have texted back “you can’t afford my autograph”.lol
 

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Humbleness won’t come until they hit the wall. Even then some women still don’t learn and keep their sky high standards and play foolish games. Women in their 30’s still play the same games, trust me.

I would have texted back “you can’t afford my autograph”.lol

Lol... I like it
 

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She opened you with a text, why are you taking it personally?
Attractive young women don’t need to “open” guys, especially guys who have expressed prior interest in them, and she knows it. My gut tells me this is validation fishing. I have better things to do with my time than play games and satiate her ego needs.

If a 23 year old attractive woman wants a guy, all she has to text is “hey”...
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Right, but why get so worked up about it? Sounded like an opportunity to me, you don't have to give her the "validation" she wants. Or, you can just ignore it. Why did you post about it if you have better things to do?

Of course I have better things I could be doing. So do you. But its a beautiful day that I’ve spent drinking beer on the dock, reading, and yes posting on this forum. I do it because it recharges my batteries for the coming workweek and I find it fun and informative. Entertaining a 23 year old who thinks she’s a queen does not recharge my batteries.
 

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Because her behavior is confusing, and it doesn't feel good to be confused
I hear ya, but I have one better. After three years a chick sent me only a pic designed to make me jealous. After no reply, two weeks later she sends a link to something I said online about us four years before. No reply again. All it takes is a Hey.
Still don’t know what her goal was, but view it as a retarded approach…
 

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I feel you, dude. I posted the last thing before I read this. I happen to like the forum a lot myself. I guess what I was getting at is how do you think she was being a queen?

Just for fun, I bit and replied to her with “you can’t afford my autograph”. That led to further banter. I won’t go through the whole chat sequence, but I’ll go through the last four exchanges:

Bacchus: so you ready to go for that drink or are you just autograph hunting?

Her: how did football turn into drinks?

(For context, when I initially got her number I joked and said I’d show her how to throw a spiral)

Bacchus: sometimes the quarterback calls an audible

Her: Lolll and qb audibles are done over drinks?


I didn’t respond after her last message. To me she is trolling. Am I jumping to conclusions?
 

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Probably.

At this point I'd call out a day, time and place. Don't ask. Just say, "Let's do Corner Pub Tuesday at 8pm." Anything other than a yes or a counter with a different day-time means she's attention-whoring and should get a hard-next.
 

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Probably.

At this point I'd call out a day, time and place. Don't ask. Just say, "Let's do Corner Pub Tuesday at 8pm." Anything other than a yes or a counter with a different day-time means she's attention-whoring and should get a hard-next.
I’m thinking I won’t even give her that. We loosely know a few of the same people, I don’t want her telling folks that I’m chasing dates.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Soon, with enough experience, it will be amusing when they try to start playing it and with you knowing full well what's going on in their little minds, to either make them suffer a little more (mind fvck) or dance with them (another mind fvck).

Enjoy it bacchus and don't let it faze you.
 

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If a girl is trolling she is (unconsciously) testing your social acuity. A seasoned man naturally trolls women, and if a woman were seasoned enough to troll, THAT guy would have a feast on her.

I would have just responded with, "You Better recognize ...." And let her invest more trolling to which I willingly embrace and encourage (test my socialization and you shall receive), or she defers into her humility.

Never get offended. Get amused and GIVE her what she needs, which is a guy she wants to chase.
 

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A seasoned man naturally trolls women, and if a woman were seasoned enough to troll, THAT guy would have a feast on her.
It would be awesome to turn this thread into an: Examples of how to troll women thread.
 

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I’m thinking I won’t even give her that. We loosely know a few of the same people, I don’t want her telling folks that I’m chasing dates.
It's not chasing dates if you throw out a date and time and she either says no or doesn't respond. It's chasing dates if you ask her out multiple times with no yes or a counter. I'd throw out one time and let it be. If she doesn't respond or says no, you've got your answer. If she says no, play it off with some banter about throwing to another receiver and she was a decoy or some stupid sh*t. If she wants to try and blow that up into you chasing dates, well she was probably going to do that anyway, multiple points of validation and all that stupid sh*t.
 

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It's not chasing dates if you throw out a date and time and she either says no or doesn't respond. It's chasing dates if you ask her out multiple times with no yes or a counter. I'd throw out one time and let it be. If she doesn't respond or says no, you've got your answer. If she says no, play it off with some banter about throwing to another receiver and she was a decoy or some stupid sh*t. If she wants to try and blow that up into you chasing dates, well she was probably going to do that anyway, multiple points of validation and all that stupid sh*t.
Even if she agrees, I’m not overly enthusiastic about seeing her so I won’t bother.

Not really attracted to ball busting chicks. They’re fun to have as coworkers and friends, but I find dating them to be a drain on my masculine energy.

(This must be a symptom of getting older/more mature. 10 years ago I only cared if she was physically hot)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I think she just wants an autograph.....
 

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there is a context for this authographic thing? or is she just acting like 5th grade kid out of nowhere?
 

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I’m noticing this as someone older (39) with the younger girls I wheel (20-26 years old).

Just now, a month later, I get a text from her saying “Can I have your autograph?”. Nothing else

I like the younger poon but I have so little patience for their silly games that often come with it.

This isn’t a “how should I respond to her message thread”. I’d just like this bltch to learn some respect.
Bvtch is SIXTEEN (16) years younger than you. She has all the patience in the world for silly games.

She’s not even close to being on my level.
Then why did go out of your way to set up a date with her.

What happened to early 20s girls being sweet and feminine like I remember them being 10 years ago?
They got married and had families with alpha dogs when they were YOUNG and FERTILE. Now any girl more than FIVE (5) years younger than you is TOO YOUNG for you. A female aged THIRTY FOUR (34) is your limit.
 

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I would have sent her a pic of me having sex with a woman with my autograph on it. I can troll harder and I know where to hit them. That's if she caught me at the right time (buzzed from alcohol). If I was sober I wouldn't have the motivation to engage.
Lol... funny idea but there could be backlash if I did. If she was a complete random and didn’t know my name, maybe
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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