"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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cool. As I say, if we're talking about a 'cold' approach, that's still better than most PUA coaches I can think of. I take it you have very good looks on your side. I'm happy for you :)
We all have our own race to win/battles to fight!
My brother is very handsome and recently started approaching and he is also maybe pushing 1 in 30 odd or so, so far which, again, is better than someone like Tom Torerro who has been coaching cold approach pickup for like 15 years lol
Yes being handsome is a plus.

But of more importance is presence.

That's where many fail to create or lack.

Btw fvck those PUA's they're a bunch of Fvcking Liars who's selling bullshiet
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Btw fvck those PUA's they're a bunch of Fvcking Liars who's selling bullshiet
They probably do lie, but then, their numbers still aren't as impressive as yours! lol
So if anything, they should probably 'up' their lying game and claim to bang 1 in 3 on a cold approach or something. Would certainly sound better!
 

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1st you say it's impossible to get laid 1:1 with IOI's then your friends does it flawlessly
No. As I said in my edit, I thought he was talking about MY definition of cold approach, but he was in fact talking abot what I call a 'warm approach'. That is, WITH IOI's

And in that case, yeah, of course one should be able to bang most girls who give him an IOI. She gave him an IOI because she thinks he's hot. At that point its kind of easy street!

My friend looks like a young tom welling. He bangs every girl he opens (from a warm approach)

I'm saying its obviously impossible to get 1:1 with actual cold approach, say, on a stranger who you run up too in the street who hasn't noticed you or whatever (unless you are maybe rich and handsome and famous)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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They probably do lie, but then, their numbers still aren't as impressive as yours! lol
So if anything, they should probably 'up' their lying game and claim to bang 1 in 3 on a cold approach or something. Would certainly sound better!
Look man, I can't help you nor anyone here who's insistent that getting laid via cold approach as I proposed is useless nor useful nor gets the numbers I'm saying.

If you wish to perpetually continue with your proven 300:1 lay ratio your way and are perfectly happy then more power to you.
 

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No. As I said in my edit, I thought he was talking about MY definition of cold approach, but he was in fact talking abot what I call a 'warm approach'. That is, WITH IOI's

And in that case, yeah, of course one should be able to bang most girls who give him an IOI. She gave him an IOI because she thinks he's hot. At that point its kind of easy street!

My friend looks like a young tom welling. He bangs every girl he opens (from a warm approach)

I'm saying its obviously impossible to get 1:1 with actual cold approach, say, on a stranger who you run up too in the street who hasn't noticed you or whatever (unless you are maybe rich and handsome and famous)
agreed.
This thread was talking about cold approach, but people ruined it by taking the numbers, and comparing them with warm approach (without specifying that!) which was never what the post was about.
1 in 300 is probably normal for cold approach
And 1 in 5 or whatever is probably normal for warm approach
Obviously, a very good looking guy will have much better results, but that's not in your control
 

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I'm saying its obviously impossible to get 1:1 with actual cold approach, say, on a stranger who you run up too in the street who hasn't noticed you or whatever (unless you are maybe rich and handsome and famous)
Please man don't be a fvcking nerd thats too preoccupied with terms or situations such as this.

A women in that situation has her creep, stalker, a$$hole, rapist and a whole shiet load of defences up for any man to successfully approach in that situation.

Don't fvcking tell me you motherfvckers are that stupid to approach....
 

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Look man, I can't help you nor anyone here who's insistent that getting laid via cold approach as I proposed is useless nor useful nor gets the numbers I'm saying.

If you wish to perpetually continue with your proven 300:1 lay ratio your way and are perfectly happy then more power to you.
No, don't get me wrong.
Your way is excellent. Waiting for girls to give you IOI's makes perfect sense (assuming one is good looking enough that that ever happens to them)
Certainly a MUCH better hit rate. 100x easier etc
 

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Please man don't be a fvcking nerd thats too preoccupied with terms or situations such as this.

A women in that situation has her creep, stalker, a$$hole, rapist and a whole shiet load of defences up for a total to approach in that situation.

Don't fvcking tell me you motherfvckers are that stupid to approach....
have you honestly never seen a daygame infield?!!!
People actually do this. I feel like this is no longer a game forum lol.
Everyone seems baffled about people approaching girls here at the moment
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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have you honestly never seen a daygame infield?!!!
People actually do this. I feel like this is no longer a game forum lol.
Everyone seems baffled about people approaching girls here at the moment
RSD forums shut down. There's really only rooshv forums left who have actual pickup guys/cold appraochers etc on there.
I'm not even sure what this place even is tbh
A 'game' forum where people think it's crazy too approach a girl/have never heard of daygame!! haha
 

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Fantastic.

Nerds zooming in terms but ignores to ask how it's done nor even bothered to learn.

They rather argue semantics as if this would increase their capacity to get laid.
 

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I think we all get 'how it's done' in terms of a warm approach tbh
They think you're good looking. You know they think this as it's obvious and so you open, escalate, and close
Same as every other guy
 

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I have a 100% IOI lay rate when I get chosen by prostitutes in Thailand. They all tell me i am the chad of all chads. Then I pay them to attend college and feed their families
 

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of course i've gotten that lol. I've pulled girls before believe it or not! :)

I still don't know what you're trying to argue?!

I'm not saying you're a virgin lol. If you're decent looking, yes, girls will give you IOI's and from there, obviously it's hard to NOT get laid with her

(although I don't find Asians hot tbh. She's decent enough, though. Personal preference and all that)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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of course i've gotten that lol. I've pulled girls before believe it or not! :)

I still don't know what you're trying to argue?!

I'm not saying you're a virgin lol. If you're decent looking, yes, girls will give you IOI's and from there, obviously it's hard to NOT get laid with her

(although I don't find Asians hot tbh. She's decent enough, though. Personal preference and all that)
That's an example from a cold approach.

She's a student whilst I'm a man well into his 40's.

I pull women to me just by having presence.

Do you know what's that?
 

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I have a 100% success rate with every woman that chooses me first for sex when they approach me as I lounge on my yacht.

It's easy when you understand how this game works.

Call prostitute. Leave tip on table.
 

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Men well into their 40s consistantly get approached and chosen by much younger women or questionable women /ladyboy when they have their presence in S.E Asia or third world countries in red light districts.

Learn how the game is played. You pay for their college because they tell you they are a student.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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