"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Making moves with a movie star

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yo everybody,

I would greatly appreciate some of your wisdom as I am a bit stuck.

I went to see a play that a good friend of mine was in on Saturday night and went for a night out with the cast afterwards. There was a girl there, an actress in the play, whom I could feel there was a vibe going. We went dancing and I moved in, however she was seemed shy and very concerned about other people seeing her romancing. During the night people came up to her I assumed because they had seen her in the play. The night went on and we were holding hands and having a real nice connection however there were too many of her cast mates around for me to be able to isolate her and get anywhere further. I left with her number and we agreed to meet back in the city in a few weeks when she's back.

I found out when I left from my friend who is in the play that she is actually a really famous actress and the people coming up to her were engaging with her because of the films she's been in not the play.

So now I have this super high status girl that I want to engage with but am not really sure how. I'm a rockstar myself and am incredibly talented but don't have anywhere near as much money/social status as her (yet!)

I text her the day after saying that it was a real delight dancing and chatting with her and that it felt quite cosmic - she hasn't replied. I recognise now this may have been a bit beta but its what I felt to do.

What should I do next? how should I approach this now? - she seemed really into me on the night but also seemed somewhat reluctant to engage, I think due to her fame.

Peace people
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Act like it's no big thing, but do praise her for being successful as you would for anyone that is successful.

EDIT: If you're a rockstar [sic], what difference would it make?
 
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Yeah to me it's not really a big thing that she's mega successful, it just seems that I am now the one chasing as she hasn't replied to my message.

How to do I reframe it so it's not me chasing her?
 
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voavoavoa said:
Yeah to me it's not really a big thing that she's mega successful, it just seems that I am now the one chasing as she hasn't replied to my message.

How to do I reframe it so it's not me chasing her?
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By ignoring her and doing something else. Another woman.
 
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mrgoodstuff said:
By ignoring her and doing something else. Another woman.
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But I wanna be with this woman and due to her circumstances if I don't chase she just may never contact me - which although I appreciate the logic that there are so many women in the world, this one is particularly interesting to me.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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voavoavoa said:
But I wanna be with this woman and due to her circumstances if I don't chase she just may never contact me - which although I appreciate the logic that there are so many women in the world, this one is particularly interesting to me.
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Dont be stupid.
 
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Fvck her. If she not worried about you why do you care?
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coz she's a real groovy babe and is perhaps guarded due to her fame. I'm gonna call her and tell her whats up. Chase her with relentless vigour and of course an air of joyful nonchalance.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Purpose. Deal with women who choose you. 3 date rule. You should be fvcking.
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I have my purpose and am moving swiftly towards it without any compromise and I am spinning plates, so sex isn't an issue. She was totally into me that night but I couldn't get rid of her friends so we could be alone. She's a real babe that's why I want to spend some time with her - I just need some advice on how to achieve that without it being me obviously chasing her.
 
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voavoavoa said:
I have my purpose and am moving swiftly towards it without any compromise and I am spinning plates, so sex isn't an issue. She was totally into me that night but I couldn't get rid of her friends so we could be alone. She's a real babe that's why I want to spend some time with her - I just need some advice on how to achieve that without it being me obviously chasing her.
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You cant chase them. Ask Howie. If she was interested shed be contacting you. Focus on other girls.
 
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You cant chase them. Ask Howie. If she was interested shed be contacting you. Focus on other girls.
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Perhaps you're right - I will certainly focus on other girls however if she doesn't contact me I will call her ask her out, got nothing to lose.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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