"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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how would u rate this guy

Billtx49

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Ratings, yes a female thing. Improvements, no. More than half the guys on this site are here largely due to their appearance.
I agree. If a member posts his pic for appearance improvement suggestions that’s a go, but I don’t believe that’s the case here. OP refers to the pic man as, him…
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I agree. If a member posts his pic for appearance improvement suggestions that’s a go, but I don’t believe that’s the case here. OP refers to the pic man as, him…
OP has posted pics previously and looks similar to this guy, but worse, this is obviously a look he is aspiring to pull off, unsuccessfully no doubt, its OP after all.
 

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OP has posted pics previously and looks similar to this guy, but worse, this is obviously a look he is aspiring to pull off, unsuccessfully no doubt, its OP after all.
I stand corrected.
 

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OP has posted pics previously and looks similar to this guy, but worse, this is obviously a look he is aspiring to pull off, unsuccessfully no doubt, its OP after all.
I would not thrive to emulate that look , it is far from a natural look imo.
It is a try hard/fake look and its ez to spot, its like a man with a cheap suit trying to look like a successful business man.
 

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I would say those glasses look outdated, they look like something from the 70s or 80s.
Having said that however, maybe those have come back in style again.
It's hard to keep in touch, lol.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Lmao no but i liked the clothes
Well, he does have girls around him. Is that a turtleneck?
Where did you get this picture, is it from a movie?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Style everything alright, could use some muscle bulk tho.

Keep in mind, it's not your HB number that counts, it's how 'she' perceives you. She thinks you're a 5, you'll be a 5, she thinks you're a 9, you'll be a 9. So that HB number is only for you. If you're getting good responses and they rarely say no, that means you're hot.
 

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its from music video
That could explain the cliched look. He's probably a theater geek who's kind of skinny and nerdish, trying to get a break in acting, and building his resume. Decent enough looks to want to be an actor. The costume department dresses him as the "character" he's supposed to be playing - in this case, I guess, a guy in da club out on the prowl.

Even if he's the artist/musician (which I doubt), the same could hold true - that the costume department dressed him. His focus is on music, not working out, so he's kind of scrawny.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Why are a bunch of guys rating and examining the physical appearance of another Man? Lol
 

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Why are a bunch of guys rating and examining the physical appearance of another Man? Lol
I dont rate guy but i see them as

there is no way that guy could steal my plate/gf or
that guy could maybe steal my gf/plate

In my mind the guy in the pic above would be in the first category.
 

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Aviators were my thing in the 70s. If they’re making a comeback now, it’s going to last 5 minutes. That’s usually what happens with fashion comebacks. Not a good look at all. I would say the glasses are his worst issue.
 

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Looks like a fag.

I could pull off those clothes and glasses though.
Never seen a fag dress like that, but then I don't really look at them anyway.

Like I said before, I may not be up to date on proper attire.

And since we are on this subject, can some of you post pics of what you believe to be proper attire for game?

I know some don't think this is an appropriate place for it, but I have seen pics of such before, But not as a positive outlook.

Would like some idea as to what looks good for game. Or, some sites with that kind of outlook. Thanks...
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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