What percent of attraction for women is visual vs non visual?

[bigdave17]

I agree with this, though I would say if you are a guy who is a 10, you can do far better than the guy who is a 6 and has a great PUA personality. I think PUA techniques can drastically help, but they'll never replace good looks.

my chad friend is probably in 8.5 to 9/10 range and he does terrible with women

I think women are way more likely to settle a bit on looks than settle on personality

 

[jnMissouri]

my chad friend is probably in 8.5 to 9/10 range and he does terrible with women

I think women are way more likely to settle a bit on looks than settle on personality

But he can learn game, he can't change his looks that easily or cheaply right?

 

[jnMissouri]

...I did a lot of that minus not showing sexual interest. I never had an issue getting laid.
I think that’s number one. I made some ridiculous mistakes to be honest but once we’d both had a drink it was always quite easy to get laid.

My issue was getting the damn dates in the first place, usually I’d just go to a bar and grab a woman. I always found alcohol made everything a lot easier. Once you got eye contact you’re pretty much there

Married now so pretty glad the games over. It’s a full time job. However, that doesn’t mean my internal game ends. I still self improve but in different ways. I actually work on what I want to work on now, not creating some fake personality for the whims of a vagina!

My dates were dinners with women at work. Bars are meat markets...different.

 

[bigdave17]

But he can learn game, he can't change his looks that easily or cheaply right?

dating anxiety is very very hard to break

Look at me, I'm a decent looking dude in good shape making 160k a year with great social instincts and I've had basically zero dating success because of my intense anxiety with women