"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Ending Things Based on Projected Outcomes

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I ended it with a girl a while back. Japanese, studying in Europe, half my age, a good 7. Lasted 9-10 weeks. I got oneitis but hid most of it well. High IL throughout. 2 time of the month meltdowns, bit of childish disrespect, kept her cards close to her chest, put herself first, but no lies detected. Lots of sh!t tests, some failed. My gut was screaming at me but my d!ck was telling me to plough on.

The thing is, I bailed out from the PROJECTED outcome (further disrespect) based on experience, not from the magnitude of the bad behaviour so far.

So now I'm stuck in a loop between thinking 'you clever fvcker' to 'I should have held firm, she was just about break' depending on where my head is at. And that's why I'm still ruminating.

Any ideas?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I ended it with a girl a while back. Japanese, studying in Europe, half my age, a good 7. Lasted 9-10 weeks. I got oneitis but hid most of it well. High IL throughout. 2 time of the month meltdowns, bit of childish disrespect, kept her cards close to her chest, put herself first, but no lies detected. Lots of sh!t tests, some failed. My gut was screaming at me but my d!ck was telling me to plough on.

The thing is, I bailed out from the PROJECTED outcome (further disrespect) based on experience, not from the magnitude of the bad behaviour so far.

So now I'm stuck in a loop between thinking 'you clever fvcker' to 'I should have held firm, she was just about break' depending on where my head is at. And that's why I'm still ruminating.

Any ideas?
IMO, at 4 dates, sex should have happen. 9 weeks, you lost the Game if it did not happen - (4 encounters is enough to score!)

* if she did not break at 4th encounter, she's using game on you. Beware, theres a book women are reading to out-manuver us, it teaches to string you alone, withhold sex, etc. i forgot the title of the book.

Just learn from this. Put it passed you. Women will make it easy when they are into you, other wise she will test very often.

No matter how hot a woman is, dont tolerate bad behavior, that's a recepie for more bad behavior and an unpleasant experience.

Put it behind you buddy. I been there.
 
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Banged on the first date, dude.
Ouch
So "Magnitude of bad behavior" from her "After sex with you" = The sex was bad.
She had Buyers Remorse -

This is not Oneitis. This could be more like FZ.
I am guessing you stop pursuing her because it was becoming unpleasant, (bad behavior). At some level she was uncomfortable.

Nothing you can do but analize and dont repeat the same pattern if you are not happy with the result. You still jung up on her because of the infatuation.
 
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No. She banged me enthusiastically throughout. At times I thought that's all we had, which was fine by me. And she was a squirter.

She said she saw me as not good long term. I think she used me for sex. Oh the fvcking irony.

Yes. Infatuation is correct.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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She said she saw me as not good long term.
That's a compliment to you.

Me, I've never gone back to a girl without immediately regretting it.
 

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So "Magnitude of bad behavior" from her.....
I've put up with more from other girls and kicked myself for not bailing earlier.

That's a compliment to you.
Can you expand on that?

Me, I've never gone back to a girl without immediately regretting it.
Nor me.

This is the downside to forcing the issue yourself and it's why women will do everything possible to drag it out and avoid it by baiting you into dumping them.
Why would they drag it out?
 

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But what this one did was a drop in the ocean compared to what most dudes would consider normal. So I'm either the most pathetic fvcker on the planet, or I need a wheel barrow to carry my testicles. Which one is it?
 

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Can you expand on that?
Her saying you are "not good long term" probably means she sees you as a lover, not as a provider, meaning you turn her on. It's either that or the age disparity. In either case, I could hardly ever see how that's a bad thing to get said about you but hearing "you're not good short term" from a woman is a death-knell that means she has no lust for you and probably doesn't really respect you as a man. But what she said is the opposite of that. So I'd take it as a compliment.
 

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Her saying you are "not good long term" probably means she sees you as a lover, not as a provider, meaning you turn her on. It's either that or the age disparity. In either case, I could hardly ever see how that's a bad thing to get said about you but hearing "you're not good short term" from a woman is a death-knell that means she has no lust for you and probably doesn't really respect you as a man. But what she said is the opposite of that. So I'd take it as a compliment.
Clever. Thanks.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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No. She banged me enthusiastically throughout. At times I thought that's all we had, which was fine by me. And she was a squirter.

She said she saw me as not good long term. I think she used me for sex. Oh the fvcking irony.

Yes. Infatuation is correct.
I see. This is odd. Women in my experience and my friends cling to Men when the sex is good. They change religions....

This was Buyers Remorse. She's looking for LTR which is: Job, Good Sex, Future.

You need all 3. But if you can only have one, be good in sex. Peace
 

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Do you have an axe to grind, Marvin? I have a good job, future and she clung from start to finish. She'd start it up again if I let her.

Her future as a step mother with someone twice her age? You'd be on to something.
 

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Do you have an axe to grind, Marvin? I have a good job, future and she clung from start to finish. She'd start it up again if I let her.

Her future as a step mother with someone twice her age? You'd be on to something.
...ok.


Well no I don't have an Axe. Should I?

Lmao, dude chill. I am just as puzzle as you are, but hey, if you can get her to fire it up again, why did you post? What exactly feed back do you wanna hear?

She said you are not good long term, I told you the reasons why. Dont get mad at me bro, she said it. I don't even know you!

Listen, this was funny as balls. All is good brother. Have a beer on me. Ok bro? Done.
 

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No offence taken.

She said it worse than that. Bad boy/dangerous/player type, the opposite to long term. I didn't see that coming.

Be careful what you wish for.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What ever her blah blah blah reason was is all moot anyways. She disrespected you. She said you arent long term.

Go date other women. When her phone isnt ringing and you're not texting her because you are busy with other girls and she is not a priority in your life she will feel it. And when she does she will reach out. If she doesn't you have already moved on anyways.
 

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What ever her blah blah blah reason was is all moot anyways. She disrespected you. She said you arent long term.

Go date other women. When her phone isnt ringing and you're not texting her because you are busy with other girls and she is not a priority in your life she will feel it. And when she does she will reach out. If she doesn't you have already moved on anyways.
This is the only advice in this whole thread that doesn't sound like it's coming from a nerd who rehashes what they learned online and passes it off as their own experiences.
 

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This is the only advice in this whole thread that doesn't sound like it's coming from a nerd who rehashes what they learned online and passes it off as their own experiences.
You just described marvinlfloresq perfectly.
 

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Stay fit, wealthy and slay some more young pvssies, don't be lulled into the whole quality women stuff that's being peddled by older women.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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