"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hmm, strange texts from a lady I've only seen two times - advice needed

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In my opinion. Nothing more. You didn’t act on it right. If those text messages are in chronological order.
This:
“I like to share my feelings about how I want to kiss you and feel you next to me. And it's nice to hear it too”
Means you better fuk me already.

The more you delayed the more she got spun out. This makes them seem desperate. She’s not. She’s excited about you.
Pull the trigger or die it off.
No sense trashing her. Do no harm. Either you want her or you don’t.
Not in complete order, but over the last 24 hours. It could be me, but something just rubs me the wrong way since I met her. Something seems missing. Nice lady, but something seems missing. I also have the saying in the back of my mind, don't stick your d!ck into crazy. I also do not think she's a one and done type of lady. I think it could get more intense. I can usually get a sixth sense out of a person. It just feels something is off when I'm with her. Not sure.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Not in complete order, but over the last 24 hours. It could be me, but something just rubs me the wrong way since I met her. Something seems missing. Nice lady, but something seems missing. I also have the saying in the back of my mind, don't stick your d!ck into crazy. I also do not think she's a one and done type of lady. I think it could get more intense. I can usually get a sixth sense out of a person. It just feels something is off when I'm with her. Not sure.
Lol I get it. I just have trouble knowing what’s not crazy. The whole idea past sex seems utterly crazy.
I don’t think there’s any that aren’t a little nuts.
I know if you spin them too long on the attraction needle...they start loosing it a little. Lol
 

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That's very bizarre, even when women want that they don't write stuff like that. She's sounds like she's off her meds and you said you had a weird feeling about her even before she wrote all that.
 

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It was weird when we were making out the other day at her place too. Started kissing, and she said she doesn't really kiss, which I thought was odd. Then her landlord did a surprise visit, so I exited. I was going to do something with her tomorrow, but that statement still sticks in my head. What woman, 29 years of age doesn't kiss or like kissing? Does she go straight to screwing? She did mention a few times you're someone I really like to fvck and that I'm so hot and good looking. It's just gave off a weird vibe towards me.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It was weird when we were making out the other day at her place too. Started kissing, and she said she doesn't really kiss, which I thought was odd. Then her landlord did a surprise visit, so I exited. I was going to do something with her tomorrow, but that statement still sticks in my head. What woman, 29 years of age doesn't kiss or like kissing? Does she go straight to screwing? She did mention a few times you're someone I really like to fvck and that I'm so hot and good looking. It's just gave off a weird vibe towards me.
Hookers and strippers
 

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Not too sure about a hooker or stripper. She's one of those Jewish ladies that covers up and observes all the holidays. She doesn't go out on Friday's because of some weekly holiday. I think it's called shabbit or something?

I just think she's a bit damaged. I asked about her life and family and she thought they were deep questions. I didn't think they were that deep.

I guess it is also hard for me to just use a lady for sex. I am working on it. I find it very strange that they are calling me hot and sexy. I just assume it's a BS come on; but I do not return the validation. I've learned that much at least.
 

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I just think she's a bit damaged. I asked about her life and family and she thought they were deep questions. I didn't think they were that deep.
It all starts with her family or past life experiences. If she won’t talk about her family it could be a huge red flag, and she may indeed have developed a disorder of some type. Hoes don’t kiss because they don’t want or they fear emotional attachment, you could be dealing with something very similar to that mindset with this woman, but her words are only words, judge her actions or lack of, both physical and emotional…
Up your screening level.
 
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She texted me at around 6pm, "so, what are we doing here? I've not heard from you all day. Do you plan to see me again or what?

Good lord. I think I know why I stopped dating for a minute...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Still receiving texts.

She's now professing that she's extremely attracted to me and I'm 100% worth her time. Receiving block texts here. Apparently she doesn't think she'd find a guy with my attributes in the so fast. I think you can provide me everything I need and so much more.. And now she wants to talk for a minute. How do I get out of this w/o hurting her feelings? I feel a bit bad. She's not ugly, so I not sure what the big fuss is.
 

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Go to her place dude. Crazy chicks give the best head. You will be pulling the sheets out of your a$$
 

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How do I get out of this w/o hurting her feelings?
Well, she’s coming after you at about 1,000mph with her attention/love bombing. If you’re not comfortable with her action tell her you’re just ‘not feeling it’. The sooner you do it, the better she will take it.
 

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Remember some guys on this forum a few years ago on a thread i was reading advising against fu*king crazy women.

Comments like "you can still catch stds with a condom on" & "double bag it"
 

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Love Bombing....guaranteed Cluster B. Tread with caution. These types always fuhk the best.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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It's strange. She texted me in the middle of the night. I need sex so bad!! This morning, can we just talk sometime this week? I'm thinking about you heart heart.

This is a first for me.
 
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It's strange. She texted me in the middle of the night. I need sex so bad!! This morning, can we just talk sometime this week? I'm thinking about you heart heart.

This is a first for me.
Run with for educational purposes. How else are you going to fully understand one. Men who have been through one in an attached way can’t see past the brutality. But a man who goes in with the purpose of learning one has a complete upper hand.
 

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This is awesome, keep updating!
 

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This is awesome, keep updating!
Hardly. I feel bad hurting her feelings. I just told her I am just too busy with work to date now. I doesn't seem to sink in as I've texted this twice. in the last three days.

Run with for educational purposes. How else are you going to fully understand one. Men who have been through one in an attached way can’t see past the brutality. But a man who goes in with the purpose of learning one has a complete upper hand.
Rather not entertain the thought. Something seems off. I do not want my animal hurt or killed in anyway. Ever see the movie fatal attraction?
 

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I wish I had advice to offer but despite my experiences with some weird ass chicks I can't say I've been love bombed this heavily before. One part of me says go give her what's wanting, it could be great for you too. On the other hand what happens next? will she start stalking you at work, home...?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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