did you see the dark blue shirt? that one is super nice
I have a lot of shoes, those are 3 of the ones I wear
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Thinking about getting professional pics for online dating
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I have a lot of shoes, those are 3 of the ones I wear
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
nah I could easily pull average looking or even attractive but single mom or attractive but in her 30s now
I want attractive, mid 20s, no kids
RickTheToad
Moderator
Ask any of the woman, switch the shoes. I am not crazy about that second pic. Also, it depends on where you live. If you are in the US, each area has different tastes. Also, if you are going after 18 - 26 year old women, you need to match what they like.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Sex blows up a mans ego and raises his testosterone. Really should not even be a thought. SEX is a HUGE part of your GAME! A desired man is ATTRACTIVE. You can't be a desired man jagging off and pursuing 10's that don't want you, or by banging hookers.
Work with the FANS that you have currently and work your way up. Trust me, it's magic.
I want 23-28
I live near Chicago. I get tons and tons and tons of compliments for how I dress
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
18-26 like the chucks and current jeans and shirt looks. His "sharp" look would work more for a business woman or an older woman in management.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Your going to be rejecting those hot CHICAGO bytches once your game explodes. Trust me, they will be a dime a dozen to you once you get it right.
RickTheToad
Moderator
I know and agree. It's like they can smell the sex on you. However, baby steps.
Oh, Dave, I forgot to mention. Cologne. Many women love cologne.
really? I've had plenty of mid 20s people say I looked great for how I dress
I should mention that i've lost like 15 lbs since those pics so I have a razor sharp jawline and super narrow waist. I get crazy amount of compliments nowadays
yes my cologne game is very strong, don't worry
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
RickTheToad
Moderator
Have you Google'd Chicago men's fashion? Personally, since I am no fashionsta, go over to styleforum.net and those guys can give you some pointers what what is in style for Chicagoland. I can only give you advice as to what was told to me and what seemed to work for me.
I try to ask my sister, who is huge into fashion and other people who are big into fashion if certain "outfits" work. I've learned to match colors properly
I dunno man, I think I'm the best dressed guy almost everywhere I go. I live in a suburb about 45 minutes from Chicago
RickTheToad
Moderator
New pics are in order then. However, I'd still check what's in style for the Spring/Summer season in Chicagoland over at Style Forum (https://journal.styleforum.net/chicago-shopping-guide-part-i/)
RickTheToad
Moderator
Perhaps, but getting some help from the gays and other females who are not family may help you out. I know it did for me. What we think looks good on us is not the same as what others think. I like the red shirt though. Chicagoland's ladies are attractive, but picky. Similar to New York City I am told. So, your dress game should be on point.
I had a married gay couple at a bar on thursday who said "that I always dress super nice" and they said I was borderline metrosexual
that dark blue shirt in real life is excellent. Super upscale texture and look with the collar
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Now you just need to get in the water and
He already dresses well enough, looks well enough, he will be a superstar once he's nailing females. He needs to start with the FANS he already has. He will start making FANS of some of the ones who haven't tried him yet, but said he dress sharp. Trust me, its that simple. Life is a trip! Be a man and go start phvcking, your game will explode.
RickTheToad
Moderator
Cool. Then work on your self confidence and you'll be aces.
Like I said in my previous post, my problem with dating is
1)I over estimate hot women's standards and still believe they only want a super perfect man
2)I hate risk and I hate approaching women unless it's a very easy natural scenario. Guess what? the only women who make it easy to approach them are average looking. Good looking women have 2593205230523 dating options already so you have to "go through the fire" to get one interested in you
wanting a very high class woman and being scared of risk and hating rejection is a horrible combination that will lead you to being permanently single at 29 (which I've never had any meaningful dating experiences).
I'm not okay with it morally
I can't pursue a woman I wouldn't date. I just can't do it
RickTheToad
Moderator
Again, baby steps. Get the pics and in online dating, they should start to reach out to you. You can always grease the wheels and message then with hello, my name is Dave, what's yours. If your pics are on point, you'll receive a reply. If not, no harm no foul.
Have you tried a cruise around Chicago for singles at night? The one in New York City is popping with hot drunk ladies. I already did the search for you. There are others on Friday's and Saturday's as well. Here's one of them.
https://www.groupon.com/deals/monday-and-tuesday-sunset-cruises
When you go, you will see most of the men on the sidelines with other men looking at the ladies, and the ladies huddled with their friends. When one goes to get a drink, approach at the bar. Some will say yes, some will pass. You need to get used to getting shot down and it will eventually become second nature.
Other single cruises around Chicago's pier:
https://www.groupon.com/browse/chic...+around+chicago&division=chicago&locale=en_US
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.