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[RickTheToad]

Here's the crazy part. She views my match profile today and last night. These games... Rather move on to other pray. I cannot do these games. Expected a bit more maturity from a 34 y.o.

Dudeeeeeeee. Cmon. Most chicks have their phone on them 24/7. If they want to answer the call they will in a heartbeat. Just stop calling women to talk. Send a text

Seems that Mr. Wayne and Alpha Male Strat. says call, not text. Every man texts. Need to stick out from the pack.

 

[flowtheory]

Here's the crazy part. She views my match profile today and last night. These games... Rather move on to other pray. I cannot do these games. Expected a bit more maturity from a 34 y.o.



Seems that Mr. Wayne and Alpha Male Strat. says call, not text. Every man texts. Need to stick out from the pack.

For the love of god man! Stop talking about this chick. You’re choosing to suffer here. This thread is doing you more harm than good, because you’re just ruminating right now.

 

[RickTheToad]

For the love of god man! Stop talking about this chick. You’re choosing to suffer here. This thread is doing you more harm than good, because you’re just ruminating right now.

I was just giving an update. I assure you, I am not suffering. I am just detailing the experience. I thought it was interesting.. That is all. Besides I am already chatting with a few other ladies.

 

[marmel75]

Here's the crazy part. She views my match profile today and last night. These games... Rather move on to other pray. I cannot do these games. Expected a bit more maturity from a 34 y.o.



Seems that Mr. Wayne and Alpha Male Strat. says call, not text. Every man texts. Need to stick out from the pack.

Call, text it doesnt matter. Stick out from the pack in your lack of desperation with messaging her, both in quantity and in mesaage content, and in person.

Those are the only two places it really matters within the first month.

 

[flowtheory]

Call, text it doesnt matter. Stick out from the pack in your lack of desperation with messaging her, both in quantity and in mesaage content, and in person.

Those are the only two places it really matters within the first month.

This is why dating is so difficult for the vast majority. Both men and women. They don’t project the same high value to others as the thought they thought they were going to. And it’s a tough pill to swallow.
Coming to terms that were not as good as we think.
Two options though. Continue to stay the same and dilute yourself further compounding or become actually high value in every avenue of your life. So much so, that women can’t ignore you because you’re the best. Right now you’re not. And that’s okay. First you have to accept that so you can change it.
We can’t hang what we can’t see though.

The dating games success, I believe is just a reflection of ones success in every other area. Every person on a date, consciously or subconsciously asks “what do you have to offer me that the other people don’t?”. Relationship like many things is partly business.

I used to get pissed that I had dates which never took off, then I would take it personally, and that pattern would repeat. I thought it was my looks. I thought my physicality or soul level self was the problem. Nope. It was just how I interacted with life and women could see THAT. Because they are looking at different things than us men are.

So I’m not surprised that this woman didnt follow up with you. Because everyone here can see how you’re reacting to her not calling you back. And if you’re reacting like this, you have to be giving some sort of that energy to her on the dates that is along the same lines.
I’m not attacking you here, please know, I merely see you doing what I used to do. And that’s why we’re here. To get better. And gain perspective

Even if that woman called you back; there’s still parts of you that are wounded or needy. Before she even came along. This is who you are. A part of you. And that’s going to rear it’s head soon enough even if you lock down a hottie and the ramifications would be even more instensified then this currently.

I was once on a forum and I posted a thread similar to this one. And a user gave me the best thought which shifted my perspective...

“You’re problem isn’t your looks, your career, or anything that people can see. It’s your attitude that you feel entitled that you deserve she call you or give you attention. And when you can eliminate that entitlement, you’ll be laughing. And you won’t see it today. Or tomorrow. But you’ll see it some day”.

You’re doing the exact same thing. So no, it’s not interesting she did what she did; didn’t invite you up. It’s actually quite boring. What’s interesting, is that you think she should have called you back because you feel entitled to that.

 

[RickTheToad]

As weird as this sounds, she texted me today asking how I've been. I've not responded and moved on. Too old for games. Plus, several ladies who are younger have already reached out to me. All I did is add some new photos of me. Still working on myself. I am not perfect, but I aim to get as close as possible. I am not entitled to anything. However, even if I didn't like or was interested in a lady and they reached out, I'd still respond via call or text (more the later) saying so. I've done this in the past, it's called the decent and respectful thing to do. What ever happened to common decency anymore?

I adjust pretty fast to situations. I guess my error in this way of thinking was trying to find a logical answer for an emotional being. Also known as mixing old and water together. I am learning. Some people take my kindness for weakness, I am not weak, but I am a kind person to all people who are the same to me. I was raised in a Catholic household. This was what I was taught. Be kind to others and they will treat you the same. I've not found that to be true with the opposite sex. Common decency does not equate to common respect. That is all.

I reach out once to a lady, and then just back away. Hey, this is Rick, calling to see what's up, hit me back. Now, I've taken @CMNILS87 advice and no longer leave messages. I just shoot a text after the call. Seems to work better with a response. We shall see. Regardless, not crazy about the dating game. I guess one has to let go of what they were raised and taught and really fight themselves in doing what's right and only doing what's needed.

 

[marmel75]

As weird as this sounds, she texted me today asking how I've been. I've not responded and moved on. Too old for games. Plus, several ladies who are younger have already reached out to me. All I did is add some new photos of me. Still working on myself. I am not perfect, but I aim to get as close as possible. I am not entitled to anything. However, even if I didn't like or was interested in a lady and they reached out, I'd still respond via call or text (more the later) saying so. I've done this in the past, it's called the decent and respectful thing to do. What ever happened to common decency anymore?

I adjust pretty fast to situations. I guess my error in this way of thinking was trying to find a logical answer for an emotional being. Also known as mixing old and water together. I am learning. Some people take my kindness for weakness, I am not weak, but I am a kind person to all people who are the same to me. I was raised in a Catholic household. This was what I was taught. Be kind to others and they will treat you the same. I've not found that to be true with the opposite sex. Common decency does not equate to common respect. That is all.

I reach out once to a lady, and then just back away. Hey, this is Rick, calling to see what's up, hit me back. Now, I've taken @CMNILS87 advice and no longer leave messages. I just shoot a text after the call. Seems to work better with a response. We shall see. Regardless, not crazy about the dating game. I guess one has to let go of what they were raised and taught and really fight themselves in doing what's right and only doing what's needed.

I'd probably respond, invite her over and try to bang her. Thats just me tho.

I dont recall seeing where she flaked on a date plan so im not sure what you have gotten yourself so bent out of shape about to be honest.

 

[RickTheToad]

I'd probably respond, invite her over and try to bang her. Thats just me tho.

I dont recall seeing where she flaked on a date plan so im not sure what you have gotten yourself so bent out of shape about to be honest.

It passed my mind, however, I do not like being blown off. It's a certain common decency thing. After reading a few books and watching some videos, I get why she's now interested again (not chasing), but I am not playing games. Reminds me of high school. It's like I am dealing with a childhood mentality. Reminds me of high school. Well, yea, they are female, so I guess that is par for the course.

 

[flowtheory]

It passed my mind, however, I do not like being blown off. It's a certain common decency thing. After reading a few books and watching some videos, I get why she's now interested again (not chasing), but I am not playing games. Reminds me of high school. It's like I am dealing with a childhood mentality. Reminds me of high school. Well, yea, they are female, so I guess that is par for the course.

And why is she interested again, in your mind?

 

[RickTheToad]

And why is she interested again, in your mind?

Have no idea. No longer care.

 

[marmel75]

Have no idea. No longer care.

That's unfortunate because learning how to navigate these situations more successfully is what helps you improve in the long run.

However I think your current level of butthurt over it wouldn't let you actually have a clear mind on doing it so its probably best you let it go.

Likely what happened is things didn't turn out well with someone else she was seeing/wanting to meet with who was higher on her list than you, and now you are the fall back guy. IMO she would be out for any LTR but would be up for FWB status.

Turning these situations to your favor when opportunities present themselves is what you should be looking to do, not being butthurt from it. You want to punish them for their behavior? Do it in the bedroom.

 

[flowtheory]

That's unfortunate because learning how to navigate these situations more successfully is what helps you improve in the long run.

However I think your current level of butthurt over it wouldn't let you actually have a clear mind on doing it so its probably best you let it go.

Likely what happened is things didn't turn out well with someone else she was seeing/wanting to meet with who was higher on her list than you, and now you are the fall back guy. IMO she would be out for any LTR but would be up for FWB status.

Turning these situations to your favor when opportunities present themselves is what you should be looking to do, not being butthurt from it. You want to punish them for their behavior? Do it in the bedroom.

Yep, exactly. That first paragraph is why I asked.
Toads def acting a little too butt hurt, although pretending not to care, even though he still does. Cause he’s already shared even more facts about the situation with her. Ah well. A couple more of these then he will get it.

 

[CMNILS87]

I'd probably respond, invite her over and try to bang her. Thats just me tho.

I dont recall seeing where she flaked on a date plan so im not sure what you have gotten yourself so bent out of shape about to be honest.

Just tell her you’re practicing guitar tonight and she should swing over for a drink to hang. Easy Peazy, she’s on her kneesies.

 

[RickTheToad]

That's unfortunate because learning how to navigate these situations more successfully is what helps you improve in the long run.

However I think your current level of butthurt over it wouldn't let you actually have a clear mind on doing it so its probably best you let it go.

Likely what happened is things didn't turn out well with someone else she was seeing/wanting to meet with who was higher on her list than you, and now you are the fall back guy. IMO she would be out for any LTR but would be up for FWB status.

Turning these situations to your favor when opportunities present themselves is what you should be looking to do, not being butthurt from it. You want to punish them for their behavior? Do it in the bedroom.

I do not want to punish anything or anyone. I just lost interest. These games remind me from HS and college. I didn't play them then, I will not play them now. Maybe that is how things are now, not sure. However, I have the option not to play, and I do not want to play these games. Too old and tired of games and manipulation.

Yep, exactly. That first paragraph is why I asked.
Toads def acting a little too butt hurt, although pretending not to care, even though he still does. Cause he’s already shared even more facts about the situation with her. Ah well. A couple more of these then he will get it.

Not really, but we can agree to disagree. Each person looks at life differently. I am not saying I am right or you are wrong, or the reverse, I am just expressing what I am thinking. I do not do games. If someone, anyone calls/texts you back a week plus later, very low interest. Next.

Just tell her you’re practicing guitar tonight and she should swing over for a drink to hang. Easy Peazy, she’s on her kneesies.

Funny you say that, I am in the process of learning guitar. Just started around Christmas. Still a bit rough though.