"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I met this woman on a online dating site.We went on three dates and hooked up on the third on a Saturday.I contacted her Monday and asked her out for Tuesday or Thursday.She said a family member was having surgery Tuesday and she would contact me Wednesday.She contacted Thursday
and said the weekend was best for her.I tried to set a date Friday and she said contact her Saturday or Sunday so we could get together.I sent message Saturday around noon.She contacted Sunday morning and said she was going to take the day for herself because she had spent all weekend with a family member.I said cool let me know when you are free to meet up.She said to enjoy my day and that she would let know what days look good this week.This was Sunday and now its Thursday evening.No message yet.What would you guys do?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I met this woman on a online dating site.We went on three dates and hooked up on the third on a Saturday.I contacted her Monday and asked her out for Tuesday or Thursday.She said a family member was having surgery Tuesday and she would contact me Wednesday.She contacted Thursday
and said the weekend was best for her.I tried to set a date Friday and she said contact her Saturday or Sunday so we could get together.I sent message Saturday around noon.She contacted Sunday morning and said she was going to take the day for herself because she had spent all weekend with a family member.I said cool let me know when you are free to meet up.She said to enjoy my day and that she would let know what days look good this week.This was Sunday and now its Thursday evening.No message yet.What would you guys do?
Don't think so much. Stop worrying. Get BUSY because you obviously have to much time on your hands. Focus on your purpose.

Honestly why not contact her? If you really think that contacting her or not will make or break it, it's probably already almost broken.

Edit: i just actually read your whole post. No let it go for now. Regardless at least you already hit it so in my opinion you've already won. Your up now, so don't over invest in her. It's better that you walk away now than invest even more and get rejected.
 

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the girl obviously putting u on her orbit... if she wants you.. shes already there.. for now get another girl or get busy
 

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Sounds as though she has a lot going on at this time in her life. Her family memeber just had surgery. New dates are not a priority. Someone’s life could be at stake.

I would give her space right now and pursue other women. If you’re still interested By next Wednesday, send a message if you’re so inclined. Let this heavy emotion which seems to be in her life dissipate a little so as to free up some space.
If she messages you before then, suggest a time and day for a date as your first response, then let her respond. If she doesn’t respond or bails on that date, let go of her completely, as it’s not ideal for you.
 

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I met this woman on a online dating site.We went on three dates and hooked up on the third on a Saturday.I contacted her Monday and asked her out for Tuesday or Thursday.She said a family member was having surgery Tuesday and she would contact me Wednesday.She contacted Thursday
and said the weekend was best for her.I tried to set a date Friday and she said contact her Saturday or Sunday so we could get together.I sent message Saturday around noon.She contacted Sunday morning and said she was going to take the day for herself because she had spent all weekend with a family member.I said cool let me know when you are free to meet up.She said to enjoy my day and that she would let know what days look good this week.This was Sunday and now its Thursday evening.No message yet.What would you guys do?

This girls's IL is lower then the level of the Dead Sea . Girl who genuinely interested in you will move mountains to make it work, This girl hardly willing to move a pebble .
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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This girls's IL is lower then the level of the Dead Sea . Girl who genuinely interested in you will move mountains to make it work, This girl hardly willing to move a pebble .
so true
 

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Ugh!
She is not serious about you at all.
Imagine if this was your job and you're calling to find out about your hours scheduled for next week and they keep giving you the runaround or avoiding you completely.
Wouldn't you believe you were fired by now?
 

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I met this woman on a online dating site.We went on three dates and hooked up on the third on a Saturday.I contacted her Monday and asked her out for Tuesday or Thursday.She said a family member was having surgery Tuesday and she would contact me Wednesday.She contacted Thursday
and said the weekend was best for her.I tried to set a date Friday and she said contact her Saturday or Sunday so we could get together.I sent message Saturday around noon.She contacted Sunday morning and said she was going to take the day for herself because she had spent all weekend with a family member.I said cool let me know when you are free to meet up.She said to enjoy my day and that she would let know what days look good this week.This was Sunday and now its Thursday evening.No message yet.What would you guys do?
Also.. if you hooked up Saturday and that was last contact, did it not go well? Any issues? What was her disposition at the end of the night?
 
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Also.. if you hooked up Saturday and that was last contact, did it not go well? Any issues? What was her disposition at the end of the night?
Also.. if you hooked up Saturday and that was last contact, did it not go well? Any issues? What was her disposition at the end of the night?
It went ok and she sent me a message that night thanking me for a lovely time
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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