"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Cutting text threads and re-engaging several days later?

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We all know the case: We set up a date or are in the midst of setting up a date but the girl wishes to continue text chit chat. Some of you may enjoy this, I personally don't. So what do I do?

I engage in a few text exchanges, then send out: "Let's catch up later in the week on the phone. Enjoy rest of your evening". Several days later, send a phone call, have a short conversation 15 minutes, build rapport and tell her you're going to text several days afterwards.

Rinse and repeat. I find this method effective at maintaining interests before you have a chance to schedule dates. (I travel frequently for work and so I can't always meet a new plate within the same week).

Anyone else agree or have similar experience? Any critics or suggestions?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Your rule has to be any bytch who doesn't get with your program gets dropped. That's it.

You can't be scared to lose a bytch like most betas. My rule is I try to get women to meet up. If she gives me some bullshyt about wanting to talk more or get to know me better I put her on ice for two weeks. No contact. Then I try again. If the bytch still doesn't want to meet she gets dropped.

You guys stress over these hoes way more than you need to.
 

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Your rule has to be any bytch who doesn't get with your program gets dropped. That's it.

You can't be scared to lose a bytch like most betas. My rule is I try to get women to meet up. If she gives me some bullshyt about wanting to talk more or get to know me better I put her on ice for two weeks. No contact. Then I try again. If the bytch still doesn't want to meet she gets dropped.

You guys stress over these hoes way more than you need to.
I use a similar "get with the program" method. BUT I do it after I had already slept with them twice. I learned that women will sleep with you really fast if you make them feel like you're gonna stick around after (even if you don't).


As for the op

The trick that I use to get around all of this is to set up dates on the same day I ask them or the next.
I learn their schedule and when I KNOW they're free I just tell them I wanna see them for like five minutes.
 

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Your rule has to be any bytch who doesn't get with your program gets dropped. That's it.

You can't be scared to lose a bytch like most betas. My rule is I try to get women to meet up. If she gives me some bullshyt about wanting to talk more or get to know me better I put her on ice for two weeks. No contact. Then I try again. If the bytch still doesn't want to meet she gets dropped.

You guys stress over these hoes way more than you need to.
Seems a little too ruthless no? Why would you lose potential plates when you can maintain them with some gentleness and charm?
 
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Seems a little too ruthless no? Why would you lose potential plates when you can maintain them with some gentleness and charm?
Charm trumps 'get with the program bit*h' yeah.

The whole my bit*h/my ho thing is personally a turn off for me and women who seem to have some value but I'm sure it works fine on hood rats and the like.

So yes, charm, I can see that opening way more 'doors' ;)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Seems a little too ruthless no? Why would you lose potential plates when you can maintain them with some gentleness and charm?
Because I'm not afraid to lose a bytch. There are plenty who will get with my program.

Lose the scarcity mindset.
 

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Because I'm not afraid to lose a bytch. There are plenty who will get with my program.

Lose the scarcity mindset.
Just out of curiosity, how many plates are you spinning simultaneously and how much are you qualifying these women?
 

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Bit of both for me. They all seem to expect a few texts at least nowadays in the age of entitlement. Not best part of my games so try keep it minimal.

But it's no guarantee. I remember this cute market stall holder I got a number for. We texted and there was a phone call and it was just a daytime coffee. I was a bit keener than usual because she was a green eyed Persian girl and I haven't had one of those. Then she flakes and she sends me this wall of text excuse about how it was telling that we didn't spend the week getting to know each. So obviously a huge PITA thank god I didn't waste more of my week getting to know her.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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