“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

Do Y’all like Coffee Dates?

nicksaiz65

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 27, 2017
Messages
4,019
Reaction score
1,655
Age
29
Gonna take a few girls out soon and I’m thinking about going out for coffee. What do you all think though?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

ohrein

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 30, 2016
Messages
1,071
Reaction score
1,219
Age
41
They're good for qualifying women but not great if you're just trying to get plates. I prefer a "quiet drink" in the evening so you can go either way. But I do like coffee as maybe a second or a third date if you're chasing an LTR.
 

greatsnake

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 19, 2017
Messages
648
Reaction score
313
Age
36
If you want an LTR, a coffee date is a good start, so you can weed them out and your investments are on the low end. But if you want to spin plates, take them out for a drink or two.
 

nicksaiz65

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 27, 2017
Messages
4,019
Reaction score
1,655
Age
29
They're good for qualifying women but not great if you're just trying to get plates. I prefer a "quiet drink" in the evening so you can go either way. But I do like coffee as maybe a second or a third date if you're chasing an LTR.
I see. Unfortunately the plate I’m working on is 20 years old. So I may just do coffee and escalate later lol
 

ohrein

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 30, 2016
Messages
1,071
Reaction score
1,219
Age
41
I see. Unfortunately the plate I’m working on is 20 years old. So I may just do coffee and escalate later lol
Most guys would advise not really dating twenty year olds so I would probably opt for casual drinks in the evening. But do what you want to do really. Most of my coffee "dates" are with friends to catch up and chill on an afternoon.
 

EyeBRollin

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 18, 2015
Messages
10,528
Reaction score
8,532
Age
37
Coffee dates are a great $7 investment, but they are out of place in the afternoon and evening. Save them for your opening dates on Saturday and Sunday.

Do drinks in the evening for the first meetup if you can.
 

Mazer

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 5, 2017
Messages
798
Reaction score
889
Age
48
Drinks are good for trying to get plates and screening chicks for LTR's. Get some drinks in her on the first date and see if she puts out on the first night, if she does, you know she isnt LTR.
 

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,175
Reaction score
5,571
Hell no.
 

R.U.G.

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 15, 2018
Messages
1,797
Reaction score
1,218
Gonna take a few girls out soon and I’m thinking about going out for coffee. What do you all think though?
Nope. Spineless no backbone men do coffee dates. When she's done with you, her tongue will be down another persons (man or woman) throat. If you want to meet a new friend, sure go for it. If you are planning to one day stick your penis in her, then drink dates with maybe a TAPA or two. That is it. Try to keep it under 40 bucks. If you want to eventually bang her, pay for it as well. However, if she offers to pay or split, also a good sign.
 

R.U.G.

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 15, 2018
Messages
1,797
Reaction score
1,218
Drinks are good for trying to get plates and screening chicks for LTR's. Get some drinks in her on the first date and see if she puts out on the first night, if she does, you know she isnt LTR.
Not necessarily. No deep kissing at the end of the 1st date, then she's a loser. Move on.
 

The Diver

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 25, 2017
Messages
554
Reaction score
583
Not necessarily. No deep kissing at the end of the 1st date, then she's a loser. Move on.
Naa,,,I used to think like you. My last plate didn't return my kiss at the end of the first date. Kissed me back the second date ( She warn me she's a good kisser,,,, fu*ck man,,, she was the BEST kisser I ever had,, absolutely phenomenal ,,, ) For third date she invite me over: " She like to cook for me " , I told her not to bother with desert, and licked her strawberry "Icecream" all night long (She really tasted like strawberry,,, LOL)

So , you see,It's not black or white.

(Unfortunately, I played the game too hard and lost her,, damn ,,,lol)
 

Tilex

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 12, 2018
Messages
888
Reaction score
1,015
Coffee dates seem too sterile to me (metaphorically apeaking).

I prefer my dates to loosen up and relax more with a little bit of alcohol in their system than to feel edgy and nervous with caffeine.
Plus, night time dates are always better than daytime.
 

Ryan

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 26, 2000
Messages
926
Reaction score
28
Location
Canada in the house!!!!
I hate coffee dates because how you going to make out? unless you can grab a cup of coffee and then go for a walk.........in a secluded area....
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

RangerMIke

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 23, 2014
Messages
4,742
Reaction score
7,935
Location
USA, Louisiana
I would do a coffee 'date' for a chick I've just met... but it's not so much a date as just getting to know her... it's a pre-qual to see if it's worth my time. It's not really a date it's part of the process of meeting a chick.
 

guru1000

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
5,299
Reaction score
4,338
When you become a seasoned confident guy, the venue of choice is irrelevant. I can take a girl on a long drive, walk in the park, coffee, drinks, dinner, activity date, lounge, club, trip, whatever. As long as she is in my presence ... DONE DEAL.

As for the amateur: Start with places where you feel most comfortable and in the "social zone." As you become more successful (and thus confident), you can start to expand your first-date paradigm.
 

captain55

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 18, 2013
Messages
1,212
Reaction score
439
When you become a seasoned confident guy, the venue of choice is irrelevant. I can take a girl on a long drive, walk in the park, coffee, drinks, dinner, activity date, lounge, club, trip, whatever. As long as she is in my presence ... DONE DEAL.

As for the amateur: Start with places where you feel most comfortable and in the "social zone." As you become more successful (and thus confident), you can start to expand your first-date paradigm.
I disagree. You can go on a coffee date sitting across the table while she's drinking her caramel latte and basically interviews you.

Or you can take her to an upscale lounge with music getting her in the mood, where she can feel sexy, where other hot women will check you out and your already communicating high SMV while you gaze into her eyes eye****ing the **** out of her. And you have alcohol on your side.

Comparing a coffee date to taking a girl out for drinks is like comparing OLD to the real world. I don't do coffee dates, I don't do hikes, unless I'm generally bored and using the girl for companionship. IF you want to bang the chick give yourself the best possible chance to succeed and do it right. OF course this only applies to first dates....generally if you make it past the first date a girl has probably made up her mind she's gonna **** you at some point anyways.

Not a big fan of coffee dates/casual settings, Ive done it successfully but meh body language is a big part of game...maybe the biggest thing and its hard to project your sexual energy over a woman when your sitting 3 feet across from her in broad daylight at a coffee shop. The body language you use to get women at bars/clubs would come across as creepy on a hike or going out for coffee.

1. Bar/nightclub
2. hot tub
3. Netflix..anything that involves her at your house or her house.
4. Working out together...very easy to flirt with her by touching her without making it creepy or awkward
 

captain55

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 18, 2013
Messages
1,212
Reaction score
439
Nope. Spineless no backbone men do coffee dates. When she's done with you, her tongue will be down another persons (man or woman) throat. If you want to meet a new friend, sure go for it. If you are planning to one day stick your penis in her, then drink dates with maybe a TAPA or two. That is it. Try to keep it under 40 bucks. If you want to eventually bang her, pay for it as well. However, if she offers to pay or split, also a good sign.
Good post and spot on!

For the record my last date involved meeting a 22 year old in the park to smoke weed with her. Personally I hate smoking weed, and ended up nearly coughing my lungs up but ended up with her sitting on my face in the car. So sometimes you have to make sacrifices :)
 

guru1000

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
5,299
Reaction score
4,338
I disagree. You can go on a coffee date sitting across the table while she's drinking her caramel latte and basically interviews you.

Or you can take her to an upscale lounge with music getting her in the mood, where she can feel sexy, where other hot women will check you out and your already communicating high SMV while you gaze into her eyes eye****ing the **** out of her. And you have alcohol on your side.

Comparing a coffee date to taking a girl out for drinks is like comparing OLD to the real world. I don't do coffee dates, I don't do hikes, unless I'm generally bored and using the girl for companionship. IF you want to bang the chick give yourself the best possible chance to succeed and do it right. OF course this only applies to first dates....generally if you make it past the first date a girl has probably made up her mind she's gonna **** you at some point anyways.

Not a big fan of coffee dates/casual settings, Ive done it successfully but meh body language is a big part of game...maybe the biggest thing and its hard to project your sexual energy over a woman when your sitting 3 feet across from her in broad daylight at a coffee shop. The body language you use to get women at bars/clubs would come across as creepy on a hike or going out for coffee.

1. Bar/nightclub
2. hot tub
3. Netflix..anything that involves her at your house or her house.
4. Working out together...very easy to flirt with her by touching her without making it creepy or awkward
You're not quite THERE yet.

Ninety-percent of your communication is implicit.

You have had success in certain venues and thus you feel confident in those venues. I have had success in all venues--AFTER having success in certain venues.

You're still a young man and will have plenty of time to expand your paradigm.

As stated earlier, until you are a seasoned confident guy, stick with the venues where you are socially adept, which you can leverage in your favor.

Once you've truly seasoned, you need no leverage. You simply show up NATURALLY, and it's a DONE DEAL. No conscious game, no leverage, no social proof. Nothing. Just YOU. I don't expect you to understand if you're not here yet.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

Top