"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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To make story short

Cougar and I setting up date via text (been 3+ weeks since i got her number and little texting in between those weeks until just now that I have free time and she told me already she doesnt drink which Im aware of)


Me: "Hey, so, any place you suggest to meetup on tuesday night?
Asian Coug: Hi, I live in Pamona, downtown Pamona has nice places. What do you prefer?
Me: Since its within your area, ill let you pick out the spot =). 830 - 900pm. Anywhere but a church ( i figured i'd make her do the work since I have to drive to her spot)
Asian Cougar: 8:30/9:00!!?!!?! What we are going?!!?! Get Drunk?!!
Asian Cougar: Im at work right now, ill look it up and let you know

** So WTF? how should I reply to this? She playing dumb or something on as to why we are meeting up?


A) "Its ok, we'll just skip the drinking part"
B) "Say something nice back?"
C) *** She isn't interested (but she did counter offer to meetup and was responsive to my texts)
D) What your opinion?
 
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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Why would you make a woman plan your date for you? Does that ever work? Consensus wisdom says that is your job.
im driving 30 minutes to meet her, so, fvck, make her do something. If she wants the d1ck, she better do some work too

So, going back to the topic, how to answeer that?
 

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Super Low Interest. Here is a similar example,
Last week I met a woman on OLD. She didnt like to drink so I set a date for 10 pm to go dancing (she likes dancing), she responded with 10pm?!! Thats my bed time!!!

I already knew this chick was going to be work, I told her I can make it for 9pm and she responded with we have different lifestyles, apparently 9pm was too late for her on a Saturday, I didnt even bother responding and I suggest you do the same. We never spoke again.

I would not change the time! If she is interested she will be there. Do not say anything, hit her with silence and just wait for a yes or counter. I have my money she never gets back to you cuz she had no intention of meeting you.
 

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Super Low Interest. Here is a similar example,
Last week I met a woman on OLD. She didnt like to drink so I set a date for 10 pm to go dancing (she likes dancing), she responded with 10pm?!! Thats my bed time!!!

I already knew this chick was going to be work, I told her I can make it for 9pm and she responded with we have different lifestyles, apparently 9pm was too late for her on a Saturday, I didnt even bother responding and I suggest you do the same. We never spoke again.

I would not change the time! If she is interested she will be there. Do not say anything, hit her with silence and just wait for a yes or counter. I have my money she never gets back to you cuz she had no intention of meeting you.
im making her do the work..at this point since ill be driving 30 minutes. But ya, don't reply, you maybe right.

As for low interest, i dont think i'd jump into that conclusion just yet, she did counter my previous offer at a different date and told me her days off from work. Anyway, i'll soon find out how interested she is as I want to know too.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Asian Cougar: Im at work right now, ill look it up and let you know

You wait for her to "let you know".

Let us know how it turns out.
 

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I just texted her back saying
Me: Lets meet in middle. Lets go bowling here
 

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How many other women have you set up dates/spoken with in the 3 weeks since you got her number?
 

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she replied back: "text me address please"

I am sharing this conversation/experience , just so others can use this data as future reference and compare it with their current problem/situation. Its not all just about me.
 
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im making her do the work..at this point since ill be driving 30 minutes. But ya, don't reply, you maybe right.

As for low interest, i dont think i'd jump into that conclusion just yet, she did counter my previous offer at a different date and told me her days off from work. Anyway, i'll soon find out how interested she is as I want to know too.
Really? It's a Tuesday night, she has a job and because she is questioning the time that you want to meet, on a weeknight, and you're considering not replying because a she's not revolving her life and responsibilities around an 8:30pm date where she needs to do the work to get your d**k?

She counter offered, is given you her times that she is off work (and hence has more flexible time to see you) and is continuing to text you. If she wasn't interested she would not be doing these things. She has a life and other things going on and is trying to meet you halfway it seems.

But if you don't want to reply to her go ahead, she'll just meet up with some other guy who gets that adults have things going on outside of dating and are ok with coming up with a date time and location that works for both of them without making into some frame game.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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She hinted, wanted you to decide as a man should. Remember she's Asian and she desires a man to be manly.

Of course you replied her like a typical Asian girl....
 

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I'm asian and judging from her replies she's mega flaking you. Not worth the effort. I smell gold digger.
 

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I'm asian and judging from her replies she's mega flaking you. Not worth the effort. I smell gold digger.
I think she will meet up, but I think OP has no options and will come off as too needy/put too much importance on the outcome and will end up blowing it regardless of how tye actual date goes. Just my read of this.
 

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A man sets the date. You failed that part already. There is no "making her do the work", and she is certainly not a "cougar". That would imply she wants sex, which doesn't seem evident in this exchange.

You have known about this site since 2005? Holy moly, talk about an absolute failure to utilize this place effectively...
 

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So, to appear less desperate to her, i moved the date to May just to make a point to these women im not needy.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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So, to appear less desperate to her, i moved the date to May just to make a point to these women im not needy.
Why are you trolling us?
 

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so i moved the date to 2019, to show non needyness
A man sets the date. You failed that part already. There is no "making her do the work", and she is certainly not a "cougar". That would imply she wants sex, which doesn't seem evident in this exchange.

You have known about this site since 2005? Holy moly, talk about an absolute failure to utilize this place effectively...
I was in prison for 13 years, just got out 5 months ago
 

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Really? It's a Tuesday night, she has a job and because she is questioning the time that you want to meet, on a weeknight, and you're considering not replying because a she's not revolving her life and responsibilities around an 8:30pm date where she needs to do the work to get your d**k?

She counter offered, is given you her times that she is off work (and hence has more flexible time to see you) and is continuing to text you. If she wasn't interested she would not be doing these things. She has a life and other things going on and is trying to meet you halfway it seems.

But if you don't want to reply to her go ahead, she'll just meet up with some other guy who gets that adults have things going on outside of dating and are ok with coming up with a date time and location that works for both of them without making into some frame game.
Would she question Brad Pitt if he set up a date at that time? Low interest.
 

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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

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