"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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No kiss on 2nd date

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I tried to kiss her couple tines, i let her sit on my lap, we were in ppark, not mamy ppl and dark. She didnt open her mouth... Worst kisses in my life. Like 1/4 of a kiss.

She said ahsh stressed when with me. I asked if just me and she said ahe acts like that when there are any men near her. And that we dont know well each other yet.

Also sges moved legs and snatches her legs with her fingernails. Much stress? Maybe


What would you do ?? Escalate more or cut it? I touched her legs, back, stomach,neck under the jacket.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Might be a sign of low interest, might be a sign of not comfortable enough with you.

Its definitely not a good sign tho.
 

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Might be a sign of low interest, might be a sign of not comfortable enough with you.

Its definitely not a good sign tho.
She did that thing where she looks my eyes n then my mouth n back couple times i assume it was uncontrolled behavior thst means she wanted a kiss
 

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She might not be comfortable doing such acts (kissing) in public, even if there's not many people around/dark. I know some have no problem with it (and some couples overly so imo), and some feel it's improper to do so in an open area. Not sure if that applies to her or not.

I'd build more comfort with her first before re-escalating. Get her more relaxed and enjoying being with you. Listen to what she said 'we dont know well each other yet', and go from there.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You really want those cooties?:p
 

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your location says london. weird, I was there and never heard such bad jokes
Maybe this tranny is pre op and just doesn't want you getting to close... yet

spin plates and date other men
 

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Tone down your investment on follow up dates, go ghost/play aloof until she messages you before you setup the next date

Design your dates around escalation and low investment, you aren't going to be buying dinner (or anything hopefully) for a girl who isn't even gonna kiss you. Invite her to hang at your house or to get drinks (subtly imply that she'll be buying her own drinks, like "don't worry about bringing a lot of money, this place is cheap so you won't go broke" )

If you don't get any action by the third date and there's no meaningful progression from the first two, hit her with an LJBF and then no contact if she's okay with it.

You may not even get the third date though.

The idea here is that you're losing interest, getting further away from any sort of committment or investment, but you aren't being spiteful, she's just boring you subconsciously.

If she doesn't care she has no interest, if she tries to string you along without giving you any action but not letting you go she's malicious and if she rushes escalation she likes you and was just playing games before
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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lolz!!!:p
 

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She might not be comfortable doing such acts (kissing) in public, even if there's not many people around/dark. I know some have no problem with it (and some couples overly so imo), and some feel it's improper to do so in an open area. Not sure if that applies to her or not.
In my experience, assuming the girl isn't particularly shy or conservative, not wanting to do stuff because it's too public is a heavy sign she either is embarassed to be seen with you or has a husband at home
 

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In my experience, assuming the girl isn't particularly shy or conservative, not wanting to do stuff because it's too public is a heavy sign she either is embarassed to be seen with you or has a husband at home
she has open mouth 24/7. impossible to lie and get away with it if you are this talkactive. she can be shy but she also has some weird personality I think. very weak plain jokes just for the sake of joking and not joking for sake of laughing
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I had a woman who didn't open her mouth when we kissed. I went out on a total of three dates and then stopped. Dont waste your time with some chick who wont kiss you on a second date and cant even kiss you properly. If she is that bad with kissing imagine how boring she is going to be when it comes to sex. Every woman who has kissed me passionately, has been great in bed. The ones that were terrible kissers, were also lousy in bed. NEXT.
 

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2nd date, good improvement from our last exchange.

Now ask for the 3rd date, and don't kiss her; escalate to the bang instead.
Maybe she will suck OPs c0ck with her mouth shut too...interesting...hahahah
 

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This chick has problems AND she is not making it easy for you.

Get other options.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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