"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is she interested at all? Snapchat conversation

The Slight Edge

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Please go easy on me. I am far from skilled at this, but here is a quick snapshot of a recent conversation I had with this girl over snapchat. (Don’t have her number yet). Background info: we do already know each other in real life although not that well and I believe there was some interest on her part.

Me: Hey Lacy how’s the running going? Is your streak still alive?! (She has a streak of running every day)

Her: It’ going good lol I mean not going too crazy or anything lol! Yes the streak is still alive! How’s your stress fracture? (She knew about this from before-although we haven’t talked in awhile)

Me: that’s good Haha I have an impressive 0 day streak right now, but think I will start one with the new year #1/1/18

Her: lol Now that’s a great New Years resolution! Maybe start with a 6 month streak goal!

Me: 6 months seems kinda weak...I think I’m going for 50 years! Haha

Her: well 6 months is good gotta start small lol but 50 years is good too! Lol

Me: although I still have to figure out how to catch you since your ahead 5 years...(that’s her streak)

Her: I guess I will just always be 5 years ahead of you (emoticon)

Me: nobody likes a show off! Haha just don’t be surprised if you suffer a mysterious injury if I make it to 45 years (my streak)

Her: well I’ll be sure to steer clear of you then when I’m 62 (emoticon)

Me: well luckily for me I think your maths off!

Her: oh whoops lol you’re right! You should teach math instead! (She remembered what I actually teach)

Me: it’s okay I’ll let you use your scientific calculator next time!

Her: lol no kidding! Well I’m going to hit the hay, Merry Christmas!

I didn’t respond to this last message.

I know I should have been the one to end the conversation first. I also know I probably am doing nothing right hahha any help is appreciated!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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djthiago1

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You'll know if she's interested after you:
1 Get the number
2 Ask her on a date
3 Close the deal (kiss)
 

marmel75

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You'll know if she's interested after you:
1 Get the number
2 Ask her on a date
3 Close the deal (kiss)
This...stop wasting time with silly chit chat.
 

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Get her number and ask her out on a date. Take her out wherever you want and make sure you're familiar with the place first so you'll be more comfortable. If she turns you down then she was never interested and might only see you as a friend.
 

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Please go easy on me. I am far from skilled at this, but here is a quick snapshot of a recent conversation I had with this girl over snapchat. (Don’t have her number yet). Background info: we do already know each other in real life although not that well and I believe there was some interest on her part.

Me: Hey Lacy how’s the running going? Is your streak still alive?! (She has a streak of running every day)

Her: It’ going good lol I mean not going too crazy or anything lol! Yes the streak is still alive! How’s your stress fracture? (She knew about this from before-although we haven’t talked in awhile)

Me: that’s good Haha I have an impressive 0 day streak right now, but think I will start one with the new year #1/1/18

Her: lol Now that’s a great New Years resolution! Maybe start with a 6 month streak goal!

Me: 6 months seems kinda weak...I think I’m going for 50 years! Haha

Her: well 6 months is good gotta start small lol but 50 years is good too! Lol

Me: although I still have to figure out how to catch you since your ahead 5 years...(that’s her streak)

Her: I guess I will just always be 5 years ahead of you (emoticon)

Me: nobody likes a show off! Haha just don’t be surprised if you suffer a mysterious injury if I make it to 45 years (my streak)

Her: well I’ll be sure to steer clear of you then when I’m 62 (emoticon)

Me: well luckily for me I think your maths off!

Her: oh whoops lol you’re right! You should teach math instead! (She remembered what I actually teach)

Me: it’s okay I’ll let you use your scientific calculator next time!

Her: lol no kidding! Well I’m going to hit the hay, Merry Christmas!

I didn’t respond to this last message.

I know I should have been the one to end the conversation first. I also know I probably am doing nothing right hahha any help is appreciated!

She seems receptive of your replies and that itself is a good sign. Set up a time and place for the both of you to meet and save the banter for when the time comes. No point in talking if it's only done through text. Depending on her answer you will know where her level of interest falls at.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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She seems receptive of your replies and that itself is a good sign.
No it's not. She's receptive to his replies cause there's nothing there.

It's easy to be "receptive" when no one's asking anything of you. He's shown NO interest,so there's nothing there for her to accept or reject.

When I read that exchange,only one word/thought comes to mind.....

FRIENDZONE. Let me just put it this way.....

If he's scared,or afraid to make a move/ask her out because he's worried he might wreck,or ruin things between them.....

He's ALREADY screwed up.

He needs to do what the poster above me said.....ESCALATE. And he needs to do it QUICKLY.

He needs to either do that,or go no contact and simply leave her alone,but STOP having non-sexual,non-romantic,no interest showing conversations with her.
 

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She thought from the original message onward that you were going to ask her to go running with you. Then she was a little disappointed that you didn't. I'm not telling you to ask her that this second, but that is the direction you started the conversation, but then you didn't continue in that direction. She runs, you run, go run together. Then let her think all you want out of her is a running partner, or at least make her wonder. There is no mystery in your approach in the conversation above.
 

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She thought from the original message onward that you were going to ask her to go running with you. Then she was a little disappointed that you didn't. I'm not telling you to ask her that this second, but that is the direction you started the conversation, but then you didn't continue in that direction. She runs, you run, go run together. Then let her think all you want out of her is a running partner, or at least make her wonder. There is no mystery in your approach in the conversation above.
Wow, that’s such a simple idea yet I seriously never even considered it. Thanks man I think this is a good idea to run together.

Also, this was our first time talking over social media EVER, and yes, I must admit I was hesitant. This is due in large part to the fact that I do have a girlfriend. I do not want to cheat, but at the same time, I am interested in this girl a lot. I am only entertaining the possibility of something with her because of the many IOI’s she’s given me in person. (Strong eye contact, smiling non-stop, asking about my weekend plans, asking indirectly about my girlfriend, etc.)

I don’t think at this point I’m in any friend zone, but I do understand that could happen if I continue to talk to her like a friend.

I guess the basics of it are I’d like to know if she’s interested in me that way, and if she is, I would then consider breaking it off with my girlfriend. However, things aren’t that bad with my girlfriend where I would want to end things right away without knowing. (I’m branch-swinging myself I guess?)

What’s the best way to know if she is interested without cheating?
 
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