wifehunter
Master Don Juan
I'm at the laundromat, and this chick is walking by me, way too many times. I haven't looked up from my phone once.
Silly girls!
Silly girls!
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Invalidation = indifference
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Well played.
At a cafe, this one chick does that all the time, i mean "i know you're fine, but i'm the catch babe!" LOL!
TheMonkeyKing
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Same thing often happens to me as I walk along the street. I clock a chick at distance, she's checking me out. I pretend not to have seen her, staring in to the middle distance, so she purposefully cuts across my path right in front of me to get my attention.
Happens far too often to be coincidence.
Happens far too often to be coincidence.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
Eye contact = attention
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Extended eye contact/double take (from them) = let's fck.
wifehunter
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All day long!!! Double takes and elevator eyes. Everyone wants my DNA.
TheMonkeyKing
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Got one earlier today on my lunch time walk. This chick across the street, looking right over with a cheeky grin. I had shades on so she wouldn't have clocked me looking at her (= no validation). As we draw level, I turn to look at her and grin back. She does the same. Really should have approached. Bit of a Plain Jane though.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Staring at em and getting all up in them without their effort doesn't help you.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Going your own way might be something that has to be done for a period of time to reestablish your identity.
On the looking at females. What has worked for me is to address ones that show a definite interest. Such as a double take. I will at least acknowledge those and possibly get a number if I'm single.
What has never worked for me is chasing girls or being all up into ones that weren't already crazy about me. I think Supreme calls it "h0e chasing" and it's a SIN...
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
In most of these cases, the girl doesn't find you attractive at all. She's merely attempting to collect ego points. The only thing you can say about a female trying to non-verbally engage with you is that you are not disqualified (e.g. too hideous or smelly) from ego points.
She's just trying to get you to show interest SO she can blow you off. It's things they do when they are otherwise bored (like doing laundry). It really doesn't mean much.
When you can actively interact with her and generate interest (that's verified, not imagined) then ignoring her is useful.
She's just trying to get you to show interest SO she can blow you off. It's things they do when they are otherwise bored (like doing laundry). It really doesn't mean much.
When you can actively interact with her and generate interest (that's verified, not imagined) then ignoring her is useful.
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Like points in a Mario game
Just like we like knocking them off their pedestals, they like the power of rejecting AFCs.
It's good to ignore her but don't be one of those cell phone drones. Look around. Most people aren't looking up from their phone.
At Starbucks some snooty girl who looks like the standard 27 year old feminist Jewish Italian girl sits at the bar where they deliver the coffee so everyone must stand next to her, and she not only refuses to look up from her phone, but when the Starbuck's staff asks her questions she just shakes her head no and doesn't say a word and doesn't look up and still manages to throw a little "I'm annoyed by anyone interrupting me" vibe. You're not reading War and Peace honey, you're liking pictures of your friend's hamster. Luckily they know me now and usually hand me my Doppio on the far side of where she is.
^Agreed.
I have encountered numbers of them. They are out there collecting points like it's a pokemon game.
Usually ignoring these girls tend to be fun once you have generate interest, but knowing how to approach them is different. Women these days have an attention span of goldfish. Thus mostly i neg-em, flirt and leave it hanging in the air. Seriously, it works pretty good when you have other plates around.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
Like points in a Mario game
Just like we like knocking them off their pedestals, they like the power of rejecting AFCs.
May be she is the attendant.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
She white, attendant is mexican. I'm there every other week.
So you must have had a sneaky peak then....so much for indifference.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.