"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How to handle this Flake?

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Listen, IMO if your really, truly made her day when you showed up, you would have already gotten into her panties. She's trying to hook you into her orbit by feeding you hopeful words.
That's why this thread sounds troll-ish - because the chick has managed to convince you that there's a chance, and that's what you are regurgitating.
No she seems genuine, I intend to wait this out a bit.She spends a ton of time talking to me and no one else, over and over again. She keeps coming back to all and talk
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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No she seems genuine, I intend to wait this out a bit.She spends a ton of time talking to me and no one else, over and over again. She keeps coming back to all and talk
good luck
 

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good luck
Sarcasm?

Not sure what to do just yet. But she always comes up to talk to me then leaves then comes back for more over and over again.. I don't compliment her or anything like that. It could be that she wants to get to know me better feel more comfortable first. And if that goes well, then we can take it outside the gym.She might not want to invest the time just yet. I suspect she might be the inexperienced young girl type. slightly religious perhaps. Not sure I need more info.
 

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@Sdives not sarcasm, sincerity. I have no dog in this fight. I hope you get what you want. No clue why you don't simply ask her out
 

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@Sdives not sarcasm, sincerity. I have no dog in this fight. I hope you get what you want. No clue why you don't simply ask her out

I dont think its reached that point. She does touch me allot, e.g. my hands yesterday, saying she will come back and talk after seeing one of her girl friends there. She sneaks up behind me and taps the back of my knee or swats me with rolled up paper. I think she might be window shopping if you catch my drift. she not sure what to do, but if I come on too strong she'll back out. So I need to wait until she's ready. The friendliness is increasing so its like an upwards slope right now, not at the peak.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I dont think its reached that point. She does touch me allot, e.g. my hands yesterday, saying she will come back and talk after seeing one of her girl friends there. She sneaks up behind me and taps the back of my knee or swats me with rolled up paper. I think she might be window shopping if you catch my drift. she not sure what to do, but if I come on too strong she'll back out. So I need to wait until she's ready. The friendliness is increasing so its like an upwards slope right now, not at the peak.
Hasn't reached the point of you being a man and acting like one? You are simply afraid of having your little fantasy vanish if she rejects you. She sees you as a friend and you are spending way too much time analysing. In the meantime she is swallowing some random dudes d1ck she just met at the bar down the street while you wait for "the perfect time".

Get a fvcking clue dude.
 

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Sdives, I hope that by now you realize that everyone here is telling you the same thing.
If you think a girl needs to be comfortable to have sex, you are officially bluepill. Passion and attraction is all that's required for a good session of sex.
When a girl says she needs to feel comfortable first, what she really means is I am looking for a provider/orbiter and I might maybe possibly but prolly not give you sex if you jump in all of the hoops like a good little boy.
If you pitch in a date, it drastically increase your value to her because you know what you want and it's obviously her and are not afraid to get what you want.

Talking to her hours and hours puts you in friend zone... for all I know it might be too late already in your case. Cause now, she might try and make you feel bad for "asking her so early" and the thing is since you are not experienced enough, this feminine tactic will work.
I'd pitch a 1on1 date at a bar and either leave after 1-2hr MAX and then go for a second date at your/her place OR try and go to her preferably or your place after 2-3 hrs of first date anb seal the deal.
I know you think it makes you an animal but that's what women want you to believe so they can better control/use you. Men currency is attention, female currency is sex. That's how it is. This is redpill stuff. You are giving her plenty, she's giving you none. You are clearly highly attracted to her so be a man and show her how you feel and don't feel bad about it. If it doesn't work (and it prolly won't) no big deal, this is a great learning experience and there are ****tons of fish in the sea.
 

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1. Stop micro analyzing
2. Do not believe what a woman says but believe in what she does
3. He who hesitates is lost.

If a girl invited herself to the movies that you and two guys were going to you should be busting her chops. Think if the situation was reversed and you invited yourself to a movie that she and two girlfriends were going to see. Don't you think that would come off as creepy/needy?
 

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1. Stop micro analyzing
2. Do not believe what a woman says but believe in what she does
3. He who hesitates is lost.

If a girl invited herself to the movies that you and two guys were going to you should be busting her chops. Think if the situation was reversed and you invited yourself to a movie that she and two girlfriends were going to see. Don't you think that would come off as creepy/needy?
There ended up being 8 of us at the movie 2 couples and us 4 single guys. She didnt know that and I didnt know there were going to be 8. I wont bust her chops on it.
 

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There ended up being 8 of us at the movie 2 couples and us 4 single guys. She didnt know that and I didnt know there were going to be 8. I wont bust her chops on it.
Doesn't matter. Forget about the number and image that you invited yourself to something. Unless your running some savage game or f'ing with your buddies, inviting yourself somewhere is socially inappropriate, awkward, and frankly disrespectful in 99% of cases. By not busting her chops you are tolerating disrespect and allowing her to walk over your boundaries. It either means she thinks you're a big *****, or even worse, she's toxic and has no regard for boundaries, and that should be your cue to exit stage left.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Her assertiveness is borderline annoying. Possessive chicks are often the most assertive.

If you want to meet her, I suggest doing this:

Call her now say "Hey can't talk long. Want you on a one-on-date this FRI evening. Join me for a drink at 8 at (place)?" Don't rush the conversation. But get to the point. 5-minute convo MAX. If she keeps the conversation aglow, let it go for 15 mins. but ALWAYS be the one who ends the conversation.

If she doesn't answer the phone don't leave a voicemail but text this after calling: "Just tried calling you ;) ;)" Then go out have fun work hard meet lots of other girls.
Invite her to The Rusty Nail...no chick can resist that place, right @Espi ? :D
 

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You do nothing. This is a non productive overthinking. Act like you don't give a shît and keep mackin her.
 
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