"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Weird signals

DamnSon

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Wtf? Local chick, comments on my social media photos, hits on me. She's hot, cool. I hit her up like 2 days after (today) said she'd be down to meet up..I ask for her number, she says "contact me on Facebook messenger, I don't really give my number out unless it's for business inquiries" I just said hm ok and didn't say anything after.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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DamnSon

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Maybe I was too forward, thinks I'm a player type. I did get right into it and have a lot of chick interactions on my social Media. Weird
 

devilkingx2

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Wtf? Local chick, comments on my social media photos, hits on me. She's hot, cool. I hit her up like 2 days after (today) said she'd be down to meet up..I ask for her number, she says "contact me on Facebook messenger, I don't really give my number out unless it's for business inquiries" I just said hm ok and didn't say anything after.
she sounds like a hooker tbh
 

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I have realized you don't need to get the number to get a date. I have even stopped asked for the number. If she is interested, she will provide it afterwards.

Talk to her a bit, build rapport, then set a date. Anything other than a yes or a suggestion for an alternative.... is a NO!
 

finality

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so contact her on messenger and set up a meet up

maybe she has a bf and she doesn't want her phone blowing up

this board seems to really overthink things.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DamnSon

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She messaged me a day after, she's one of them hard to get stubborn types lol
 

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That whole contact me on FB Messenger was a big red flag. As in she put up another barrier. Now she just wants to focus on her business, get you as an orbiter, and only see her boyfriend while getting attention from you that said boyfriend doesn't provide.

Just delete her. Sounds like an escort. She's not that attractive anyway.
 

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I would probably hit her up on FB as she requested, with the view that she might be protecting herself out of fear.

This would be made up for later when you let her know that to continue, you will require her phone number. If she likes you, she will gladly give it to you. If she hedges, she's out.
 

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Woah...2/8 replies saying she's a hooker bc she won't give out her number over social media? LOL WTF SOSUAVE. :lol::rofl:

OP, you got emotionally butthurt and put your mind into rejection mode when she declined giving you her number. Remember, a phone number is just a tool. You got so hung up on that meaningless rejection for complying with your request, that you forgot she told you she's down to meet up.

Forget the number. The meetup is the goal. Message her again, make plans to see each other. You'll quickly know after the first date if she's interested.
 

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Woah...2/8 replies saying she's a hooker bc she won't give out her number over social media? LOL WTF SOSUAVE.
no it's that she only gives out her private personal phone number for "business inquiries"

what kind of business does she run where she doesn't feel the need to have a business phone and takes her calls personally? does she not talk to her friends or not have them?

unless she's just lying with a horrible choice of words (in which case that's an instant next because lying to you is zero interest) then she's probably a hooker with low interest lol
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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