Ryan Adams
Master Don Juan
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I already did but why would she like it?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Sir, as USUAL with threads like these, you are getting VERY BAD ADVICE from most of the responses.Met girl took her on date she obviously found me attractive talked for hours end up date got a couple pecks on the lip. She texted me. After that non stop we talked for days from morning to night just making jokes laughing etc. On christmas she ready has told her family about me. Her mom told her to invite me over etc etc. Went on 2nd date ice skating i was horrible but it still went well she was laughing her ass off the entire time. Went and got food laughed etc etc. Went to drop her off at apartment and she said if I wasn't so tired i would invite you in. Gave her a hug got a couple more pecks on the lips more like bf/gf kisses then making out. After that texts got more spaced out. She still snapchats me alot with her and her sister together and random stuff like that. Basically quit talking to me on text and now we just snapchat but the communication isnt nonstop like it was a few days ago. What could this be? We still communicate but shes kinda got a hard vibe now to read.. But i have no idea what to do at this point
Help me out fellas
If you are working on your frame and game, for YOU, why does it matter? All that matters is that she can still see your sh!t and you need to take care of that for your own sake.I already did but why would she like it?
Well i cant really tell level of interest anymore. In your opinion at my situation what should i doSir, as USUAL with threads like these, you are getting VERY BAD ADVICE from most of the responses.
The Manosphere folks believe in stupid theories like:
- Don't call for a week (which makes the girl forget who the hell you are or think you're playing games)
- Don't text ever (which makes no sense)
- Don't talk on the phone ever (which makes no sense)
You communicating with the girl is NOT the problem.
The problem is that you are dealing with a market of women that just quite frankly, doesn't take a lot of things as serious as they did before. So she would go out with you, kiss you, maybe even fvck you.......then disappear for a week or the communication might be slightly off......but then when you meet up with her again, she fvcks you again.
Confusing isn't it? Well, that's the market. But please do not listen to the insane advice from these guys about communicating too much, there's no fvcking such thing as that if you are dealing with a girl who has decent levels of interest.
If you cant tell interest, it isnt there on her end.Well i cant really tell level of interest anymore. In your opinion at my situation what should i do
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
You are not getting it. Of course she responds. That way if the new guy she is fvcking doesnt work out she has you on the hook......until she finds someone else.Whats 0 interest versus some. Because if i texted her at any time she will 100% answer
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Same place i told you to go on Jan 3. Next. Delete.Ok i understand she is now texting me making random ass small talk. I answerwd but very short answers. Where should i go from here
There's your problem. You think it's slim pickins. You need to spin multiple plates or don't date at all.A toy that i messed around with though. You guys have to understand some people no matter what are not going to be able to talk to different girls at the same time. Its not as cut and dry as you guys are saying. I work a ****load and live in a small country town i dont have access to multitudes of woman. Its slim pickens
Ok. Some guys won't be able to talk to different girls at the same time. Lets pretend that is true and you can only talk to one at a time.A toy that i messed around with though. You guys have to understand some people no matter what are not going to be able to talk to different girls at the same time. Its not as cut and dry as you guys are saying. I work a ****load and live in a small country town i dont have access to multitudes of woman. Its slim pickens
There is no hard-to-get. Only interested and uninterested. Guess which one this is? Here's a hint; anything other than a yes, complete with the proper actions to back it up, is a no. Mixed signals, early games, and maybes and similar sh*t is a no.What about if they play hard to get?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
She might be testing your resolve. I wouldn't say it's too long.. but if she gets the feeling you'll always contact her your on the wrong track so you need to go rogue right now.I like your thinkin. Exactly how i was gonna go about it. Last time she contacted me was thursday she snapchatted me some random bs question. I answered short she asked something else and i told her to text me i wasnt on wifi. To which i got 0 response. its now tuesday so we haven't talked in 5 days. Been to long?
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.