"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Makes sense, even though I thought she was "the special snowflake".

Well, fvck it. Not my problem anymore.
As I said, already got a date tomorrow, let's see how this goes.
At 17, she doesn't have the foggiest clue what she wants in life. No such thing as a special snow flake. You need to get that out of your head or girl after girl will use you.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Well, during the weeks before, we were arguing more and more, the more often we saw each other, but still, this makes perfect sense.

Fun fact: her bigger sister (27/28, dunno) insisted that she mustn't break up, that she doesn't know what price she has with me, and so on. Same goes for her mother, father and literally the rest of her family.
We'll see what happens as soon as she gets used the same way I was used some years ago.
But again, not my problem anymore. Everyone has to learn from pain, and as far as I can tell, she will.
You are the prize. If you have that attitude with all girls you can't be used.

Spin your plate tonight. Date more women und viel ßpass. Don't give this old one another thought.
 

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You are the prize. If you have that attitude with all girls you can't be used.

Spin your plate tonight. Date more women und viel ßpass. Don't give this old one another thought.
I'm currently working on implementing that into my subconsciousness.
Work on my self esteem is progressing.
 

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the more you do the more you will learn, and will understand when a girl don't want you, her friends will :)
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I read your original post and a few after it. Let me say this - she's 17. She isn't sure what she wants. She's receiving a LOT of Beta male attention (perhaps even yours) and is wondering who else might be out there she could sample. This is not about you, or who you are, or what you did etc. This is about a young girl-child who is on the verge of blossoming.

These young females, they are shaped by beta males. Eventually they are the ones you guys end up b!tching about. They learn young, and quickly, that there are men who will be subservient to them, do things for them, buy stuff for them, all in the hopes of getting a piece. The beta buffet is too rich not to sample.

Dont be part of the beta buffet. Be the alpha male, the one that got away. She will quickly forget the beta buffet boys, but she will be hard pressed to forget the alpha's she comes across.

NC her. Move on. She needs to come around and you really want her to come around in her mid 20's so she understands what a quality man looks like (you) and is ready to give him her all. There is no telling what will happen in the future but I can tell you one thing - of she is meant to be with you LTR, she will be back. Otherwise you need to look for your LTR. Dont get hung up on something that is nothing, you know?
 

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I read your original post and a few after it. Let me say this - she's 17. She isn't sure what she wants. She's receiving a LOT of Beta male attention (perhaps even yours) and is wondering who else might be out there she could sample. This is not about you, or who you are, or what you did etc. This is about a young girl-child who is on the verge of blossoming.

These young females, they are shaped by beta males. Eventually they are the ones you guys end up b!tching about. They learn young, and quickly, that there are men who will be subservient to them, do things for them, buy stuff for them, all in the hopes of getting a piece. The beta buffet is too rich not to sample.

Dont be part of the beta buffet. Be the alpha male, the one that got away. She will quickly forget the beta buffet boys, but she will be hard pressed to forget the alpha's she comes across.

NC her. Move on. She needs to come around and you really want her to come around in her mid 20's so she understands what a quality man looks like (you) and is ready to give him her all. There is no telling what will happen in the future but I can tell you one thing - of she is meant to be with you LTR, she will be back. Otherwise you need to look for your LTR. Dont get hung up on something that is nothing, you know?
Thank you, that response really helped me understand how and what happened a bit better.

And no, she isn't receiving any attention from me, at least for 11 weeks now.

But, one question: as far as I can tell, she won't remember me as alpha. I was beta as fvck, at least in the last weeks of the relationship. So how the f is she supposed to Remember me as an alpha?

But still, or even because of that, moving on should (hopefully soon will) be easy.
 

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Thank you, that response really helped me understand how and what happened a bit better.

And no, she isn't receiving any attention from me, at least for 11 weeks now.

But, one question: as far as I can tell, she won't remember me as alpha. I was beta as fvck, at least in the last weeks of the relationship. So how the f is she supposed to Remember me as an alpha?

But still, or even because of that, moving on should (hopefully soon will) be easy.
Alright, answered that question to myself during the day: who the fvck cares how she remembers me.
 

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Thank you, that response really helped me understand how and what happened a bit better.

And no, she isn't receiving any attention from me, at least for 11 weeks now.

But, one question: as far as I can tell, she won't remember me as alpha. I was beta as fvck, at least in the last weeks of the relationship. So how the f is she supposed to Remember me as an alpha?

But still, or even because of that, moving on should (hopefully soon will) be easy.
she's going to remember you as alpha if you go totally NC, even if you see her in the streets
 

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she's going to remember you as alpha if you go totally NC, even if you see her in the streets
Okay, got it.
As I said, NC for 11 weeks now, and I'm not planning to give in the urge to contact her.

If I meet her accidentally, I'll just give her a smile and a "Hey", and then move on to more important things. So, everything actually.

Or complete ignore, even if she says something?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Okay, got it.
As I said, NC for 11 weeks now, and I'm not planning to give in the urge to contact her.

If I meet her accidentally, I'll just give her a smile and a "Hey", and then move on to more important things. So, everything actually.

Or complete ignore, even if she says something?


Stay NC. To be honest with you, I am not quite sure how to handle the social interaction at this point but the guys on this site can give you some pointers/tips.

Hopefully you can come to the mindset that - if it was REALLY supposed to work out with this chick, you would still be together. Dont get stuck on her. Know that there is someone else you are supposed to find.
 

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Okay, got it.
As I said, NC for 11 weeks now, and I'm not planning to give in the urge to contact her.

If I meet her accidentally, I'll just give her a smile and a "Hey", and then move on to more important things. So, everything actually.

Or complete ignore, even if she says something?
If you run into her in the streets, be friendly be polite, but don't give her anymore than 3 minutes of your time. End the conversation with " i would love to catch up but i can't right now. Im late for a date or im late meeting a young lady. But you take care."

Then leave and don't look back. Do not contact her even if she asks you too.
 

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Stay NC. To be honest with you, I am not quite sure how to handle the social interaction at this point but the guys on this site can give you some pointers/tips.

Hopefully you can come to the mindset that - if it was REALLY supposed to work out with this chick, you would still be together. Dont get stuck on her. Know that there is someone else you are supposed to find.
Actually, most of the time I'm already thinking "Why the f would I want her? There're better girls waiting for me, who value me for who I am."

So yeah, I'm kinda climbing my way up to the top, slowly but steady.
 

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If you run into her in the streets, be friendly be polite, but don't give her anymore than 3 minutes of your time. End the conversation with " i would love to catch up but i can't right now. Im late for a date or im late meeting a young lady. But you take care."

Then leave and don't look back. Do not contact her even if she asks you too.
Alright, got it. Thank you man!
But my plan for the next weeks is to definately avoid contact if possible, which isn't that difficult due to the fact that we don't really have the same social circle.
 

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Alright, got it. Thank you man!
But my plan for the next weeks is to definately avoid contact if possible, which isn't that difficult due to the fact that we don't really have the same social circle.
Stay no contact. That is best. Just if you happen to accidentally run into her just make sure she knows how busy you are and how you haven't had any time to give her a second thought.

Her " how have you been. I miss you."
You" oh man. Crazy busy. It's been great. Im getting a lot done. Meeting a lot of new people seeing some ladies. Busy. It's exhausting."
Her " maybe you and i could catch up? Its been a while."
You " that would be great, i gotta run. Im late already for my date. Will catch up some time. I will call you IF i have time. Bye bye."

Then leave and resume no contact. She will then attempt to call you. Do not answer
Do ot reply to texts. Done. Next. Cut all contact.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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If it's to happen, I'll do it like that.
Thanks man, you're really giving me a good help (can that be said like that?)
 

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If it's to happen, I'll do it like that.
Thanks man, you're really giving me a good help (can that be said like that?)
Auf Englisch man sagt :

Thanks man. That's a real big help. Or thanks you're helping me out a lot.
 

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Auf Englisch man sagt :

Thanks man. That's a real big help. Or thanks you're helping me out a lot.
Alright, thank you very much. It's been a while since I've been using this much English ;)
 

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Alright, got to find a way to stop the negative thinking and the longing in the morning.
Any tips? Besides repeating "I'm the price, she isn't worth it, f her."
 

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It just takes time man.

The equation is simple:

No contact (including social media lurking) + bettering yourself + talking to lots of girls + time = completely forget about her.

This is equation. But do not forget that time is a major factor. Forgetting about her doesn't happen over night.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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