"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The whole "don't text too much" rule

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Assuming what?
Lol that I'm trying to say how great I am for stealing her from him. As soon as I saw her give him her number I went about my business, I don't compete with friends or friends of friends. Guys that do that look like little b!tches to me. I don't put myself on the same level as anyone, and if the girl thinks that there is any need for me to try to steal her or win her over from him then I will just laugh and move on.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Lol that I'm trying to say how great I am for stealing her from him. As soon as I saw her give him her number I went about my business, I don't compete with friends or friends of friends. Guys that do that look like little b!tches to me. I don't put myself on the same level as anyone, and if the girl thinks that there is any need for me to try to steal her or win her over from him then I will just laugh and move on.
Perfect. That's the attitude all men should have.
 

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It's a bullsh!t rule that all the out of touch guys here live by. Some girls won't even meet up with you unless you build rapport through text first.
Yes, those are the ones that simply aren't interested. Another example of guys spending 95% of their time trying to convince uninterested women to be interested instead of spending it finding women who are interested.
 

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Yes, those are the ones that simply aren't interested. Another example of guys spending 95% of their time trying to convince uninterested women to be interested instead of spending it finding women who are interested.
Love how nobody on here believes in persistence. What do you have to lose? Shame? Ego? LOL. We're on an online forum called "sosuave" that is used for exchanging ideas on picking up women... None of us have any shame anymore. We're all f*cking "betas".
 

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Love how nobody on here believes in persistence. What do you have to lose? Shame? Ego? LOL. We're on an online forum called "sosuave" that is used for exchanging ideas on picking up women... None of us have any shame anymore. We're all f*cking "betas".
Is it persistence or desperation to chase women like that....?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Love how nobody on here believes in persistence. What do you have to lose? Shame? Ego? LOL. We're on an online forum called "sosuave" that is used for exchanging ideas on picking up women... None of us have any shame anymore. We're all f*cking "betas".
You do have a good point, in that a lot of guys are so afraid of getting rejected or "losing" that they quickly throw in the towel to save face and protect their ego

But on the flip side, I would argue dignity is more important. If you're so desperate for attention and validation from a girl you just met (or anyone for that matter), that you're engaging in drawn out text conversations... then idk maybe you need to adjust your priorities a bit
 

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Yes, those are the ones that simply aren't interested. Another example of guys spending 95% of their time trying to convince uninterested women to be interested instead of spending it finding women who are interested.
Being persistent is good with the RIGHT woman..a woman who won't even go on a first date with you isn't that woman. That's called I'm not interested.

If you've been on a few dates with a woman and she is on the fence and you've banged her, etc then us that's fine...be persistent if that's what you want.

The problem is most guys think they are being persistent when they are just being desperate. You don't keep persisting on a woman who clearly isn't interested...it's a waste of time, hence saying 95% of guys spend their time chasing unintrerested women trying to convince them to be interested. It doesn't work.
 

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Being persistent is good with the RIGHT woman..a woman who won't even go on a first date with you isn't that woman. That's called I'm not interested.

If you've been on a few dates with a woman and she is on the fence and you've banged her, etc then us that's fine...be persistent if that's what you want.

The problem is most guys think they are being persistent when they are just being desperate. You don't keep persisting on a woman who clearly isn't interested...it's a waste of time, hence saying 95% of guys spend their time chasing unintrerested women trying to convince them to be interested. It doesn't work.
If a woman is "on the fence" after you've been on several dates AND you've f*cked her then she is not that interested OR she's a wh0re.

The man is not the one who should be pursuing a relationship. Relationships are for the woman.. consistent access to sex is for the man. Once you f*ck a woman you have won. There is nothing to be "persistent" about after that. Just keep f*cking her. Over time one of two things will happen:

1. She will want a more serious relationship
2. She will stop f*cking you

Its not complex men.
 

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If a woman is "on the fence" after you've been on several dates AND you've f*cked her then she is not that interested OR she's a wh0re.

The man is not the one who should be pursuing a relationship. Relationships are for the woman.. consistent access to sex is for the man. Once you f*ck a woman you have won. There is nothing to be "persistent" about after that. Just keep f*cking her. Over time one of two things will happen:

1. She will want a more serious relationship
2. She will stop f*cking you

Its not complex men.
Things aren't always as black and white as you try to make them. For the most part I agree, but there is the 5-10% of cases that fall into a gray area...

I mean you are making it sound like its a whole lot of work to hit a chick up you haven't talked with for a few weeks and try and set something up. That's what 2-3 texts max? A whole 5 minutes?

Things happen, situations are fluent at times, and in some cases as time goes by I've found the woman feels you aren't interested in her because she hasn't heard from you so she won't bother contacting you either.

Persistence can be good at times, Desperation on the other hand never is.
 

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Things aren't always as black and white as you try to make them. For the most part I agree, but there is the 5-10% of cases that fall into a gray area...

I mean you are making it sound like its a whole lot of work to hit a chick up you haven't talked with for a few weeks and try and set something up. That's what 2-3 texts max? A whole 5 minutes?

Things happen, situations are fluent at times, and in some cases as time goes by I've found the woman feels you aren't interested in her because she hasn't heard from you so she won't bother contacting you either.

Persistence can be good at times, Desperation on the other hand never is.
You don't get it.

Texting is gay. The point of texting and calling is to set up FACE TIME. Women with high interest want to be around you are often as possible to make sure you're not seeing and f*cking other women instead of them.

Wake up.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You don't get it.

Texting is gay. The point of texting and calling is to set up FACE TIME. Women with high interest want to be around you are often as possible to make sure you're not seeing and f*cking other women instead of them.

Wake up.
I clearly get it. I just wrote that you send 2-3 texts to set something up. In person. What the hell else would I be referring to setting something up? A call on the party line?

Chicks don't have to be "in love" with you to Fvck you
 
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