"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Best way to ask out a girl ?

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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The best way is to actually do it instead wasting time looking for the perfect way to do it, because there is none.
 

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The best way is to actually do it instead wasting time looking for the perfect way to do it, because there is none.
No, you want her to enter your world... (assuming you have one)

Example:

I'm going to go get a steak. You're welcome to join me.

As opposed to:

Hi Caprice, what are you doing tonight? Do you want to go get dinner?

The choice is... her being in your life vs. you being her approval seeking orbiter.
 

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@wifehunter That's an insignificant detail in practice. If she wants to she'll say yes anyways and if she doesn't want to she'll say no regardless of how you put it.

If she accepts she'll enter your world, how you ask doesn't determine if she does or doesn't.
I made the mistake of asking a girl to "hangout sometime", failure resulted (she said she was "too busy") because of my weekness. Fast forward one year, I fixed the problem, and now she's chasing me. Odds are she dying for me to ask her out. I'll get around to it, in my own time.

Attraction is not a choice... So, I disagree... it has everything to do with frame. It may seem insignificant, but, It's the subtle things they look at. Early on, they're always testing and looking for holes in your armour, even unconsciously!!! Expect it... Any weakness, and you're done!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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There is no "best way". Every woman is different.

The bottom line is that if a woman believes you have something she wants there is no wrong way to ask her out. If a woman believes you're a loser, then there is no right way to ask her out.

MEN: Stop obsessing over gimmicks and other PUA bullsh!t. All women care about is what you can do for them.
 

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There is no "best way". Every woman is different.

The bottom line is that if a woman believes you have something she wants there is no wrong way to ask her out. If a woman believes you're a loser, then there is no right way to ask her out.

MEN: Stop obsessing over gimmicks and other PUA bullsh!t. All women care about is what you can do for them.
I'm sure you get results with this in mind, right? /verbal irony

Why don't you just get down on your knees and beg her to go out with you??? Great frame buddy!!! /yet, even more verbal irony

Details are everything! She wants a man! If you can't provide her with that, then you may want to rethink your life, or be her orbiting drone.
 

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@wifehunter Have you considered the possibility that how you asked her wasn't why she said she was busy? Asking someone to hangout sometime is a good enough thing to ask.

You will not always get a yes, regardless of what you say. So it is in fact a huge waste of time to obsess on this tiny detail. It will only bring you frustration and feelings of failure every time a woman doesn't say yes, which is inevitable.
 

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@wifehunter Have you considered the possibility that how you asked her wasn't why she said she was busy? Asking someone to hangout sometime is a good enough thing to ask.

You will not always get a yes, regardless of what you say. So it is in fact a huge waste of time to obsess on this tiny detail. It will only bring you frustration and feelings of failure every time a woman doesn't say yes, which is inevitable.
I did consider it... and I kept thinking the classic.. if Brad Pitt asked her to hangout, would she tell him she was "too busy"? with no rain-check ,and no counter offers...

Keeping in mind, she was 18 and now 19, so she doesn't have a lot of experience. I'm inclined to let some things slide. Which is probably why things are going so great with her, right now.

I understand that that you will not always get a "yes", people have different tastes... But, for the sake of all things that are good in this world... At least come across like a man with a life! Otherwise it's a guaranteed "I need to wash my hair", "I need to take my dog to the vet", "My grandma is sick", "It's laundry day" Oh, and my personal favorite "I have a boyfriend".

They will move quickly to discard you.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Sure, If he was begging on his knees, then she might question his identity.
It's Brad Pitt, no woman would question his identity. We're also talking about what words to choose when asking, not over-dramatically acting like a mentally unstable idiot.
 

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It's Brad Pitt, no woman would question his identity. We're also talking about what words to choose when asking, not over-dramatically acting like a mentally unstable idiot.
Words don't matter... It's perspective. If you're in your center, you won't act like a needy b1tch. It's delivery.... Think James Brown vs Forest Gump.
 

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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I'm sure you get results with this in mind, right? /verbal irony

Why don't you just get down on your knees and beg her to go out with you??? Great frame buddy!!! /yet, even more verbal irony

Details are everything! She wants a man! If you can't provide her with that, then you may want to rethink your life, or be her orbiting drone.
You sound stupid.

You think Channing Tatum has to worry about "frame"? If you have to put on an acting performance to get a woman interested in you, then you're a pathetic faggot. And based on your post.. it seems you do.

You are correct that women want a "man". Preferably an alpha man. You know what alpha males don't do? They don't follow retarded PUA rules and obsess over every move they make in front of woman. They do not seek female approval (like you).

You are still a hard core blue piller. You have much to learn. Read more of my posts.
 

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I made the mistake of asking a girl to "hangout sometime", failure resulted (she said she was "too busy") because of my weekness. Fast forward one year, I fixed the problem, and now she's chasing me. Odds are she dying for me to ask her out. I'll get around to it, in my own time.

Attraction is not a choice... So, I disagree... it has everything to do with frame. It may seem insignificant, but, It's the subtle things they look at. Early on, they're always testing and looking for holes in your armour, even unconsciously!!! Expect it... Any weakness, and you're done!
Bro I think you may be confusing your manliness with what a girl wants from you at the time. You can be best frame guy in the world but if she doesn't see you can do anything for her, why would she go out with you? Because she is in love with you? She's is only going out with you at the time because you offer her what another person can't.

Women don't care about attraction, it's the guys who do. Guys always want a supermodel, woman just want utility. Girl I'm seeing now who is probably HB 8 told me "it doesn't really matter what the guy looks like, lights are off anyway." and that "it's about the money and power". Woman thinks you are hot? She will sleep with you a few times and then move on. Woman thinks you are useful for her? She will try to hang on to you as long as she can.

It's brutal out there.
 

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Best way to ask out a girl ?
This is easy. When you ask a girl out you can simple state "I want to take you out sometime". Always use either or questions. What works best for you? The weekend or a weekday? Would you like to go for coffee or beer? You don't want to give them the opportunity to say no. As a matter of fact, it's good to ask questions that you already know have the answer yes. You prime them with the yes questions. Anyway was this a good answer or are you a bitczh haha
 

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There is no "best way". Every woman is different.

The bottom line is that if a woman believes you have something she wants there is no wrong way to ask her out. If a woman believes you're a loser, then there is no right way to ask her out.

MEN: Stop obsessing over gimmicks and other PUA bullsh!t. All women care about is what you can do for them.
True. If a woman likes you and thinks you can meet her needs there is almost no way you can screw up asking her out accept just not doing it.

Dating should be fun, so ALWAYS go into this with the idea that whatever you are doing is something YOU are going to like. Do not fvcking worry about if she is going to be happy. Plan stuff that you would likely do by yourself anyway then invite her along. You will have more fun, and therefor be more interesting. Decide on an activity, chose a time and place, and invite her along.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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