Lack of success with women ...

[pyros]

I've been under a dry spell for 1.5 years now, and the thing is that I DONT KNOW WHY.
Before this I used to have sex with a few girls every year and when I went on a date with any of these girls, my success
rate was around 90%; in other words, if I got a date with a girl, I more than likely ended up banging her.

I've done a little table sumarizing how things have gone in the last year and a half in order to find the 'reason' behind
my lack of success, but I haven't seen any clear reason. Here it is:

End of 2014:
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Girl1: 27. Met her in a salsa class. She warned me that she was already seing someone.
We went on one date with her to have a beer.
She did not want to get kissed at the end.
No more dates.

2015:
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Girl 2: 22. Met her in a salsa festival. She had a boyfriend.
Girl 3: 30. Met her in a club. she just broke up with her boyfriend. Went on three dates, we almost fvcked on date one but we could not find a proper place.
No more dates.
Girl 4: 24. Met her in a salsa club. croatian girl. Went on three dates with her. We almost fvcked on date two but she stopped me and did not let me get in her pants.
No more dates.
Girl 5: 19. Friends with a friend of mine. girl still on and off with her boyfriend. Went on two dates with her. Things got intense on date one but she did not want to go further.
She got back with her ex.
No more dates.
Girl 6: 19. Met her in a latin club. Went on one date with her. Eventhough she was pretty cute she had this attitude I didn't like and we clearly were not very compatible because
of her weird and masculine behaviour.

Girl 7: 28. Met her on Tinder. Went on one date with her. I kissed her at the end but she was cold fish.
Arranged another date and she seemed enthusiastic. 15 mins before the date she cancelled.
No more dates.

2016:
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Girl 8: 26. Met her in a salsa club. She texted me first. She agreed to go for a drink. A few hours before the date she flaked on me.
No more dates.

Girl 9: 26. Met her in a club. She seemed into me, got her number. Texted her two days later and it seems the number was wrong.
Girl 10: 24. Single mom who is friends with a female friend of mine. We went to have a drink and to a club cause she wanted to party.
She grinded with me like crazy, she twerked like crazy for me, let me grab her ass, boobs, etc but she did not let me kiss her. I tried many times but nothing.
Girl 11: 26. Met her in a latin dance class. She seemed into me, asked me several personal questions, smiled a lot, touched me etc.
Texted her and she let me know she had a boyfriend.
Girl 12: 24. Met her in a salsa festival. Asked for her number, gave me her facebook instead. Messaged her a few days later and got no reply. Nice...


What is going on??
I haven't changed anything (I guess). Before this dry spell I was already meeting and having sex with girls I mainly met in salsa clubs or online.
I haven't gotten uglier or fatter either.

I dont understand...it's getting really frustrating.

P.S.
I've had a few girls who showed interest in me but they were below a 6-6.5 so I did not want to have sex with them.

 

[MrWood]

you are a "safe" validation date, you are waiting for a kiss, they want to **** on first date.
girl 10 wanted a ONS/NSA and that is why she didnt kiss but let you grab (kissing is intimate)

 

[Vivacity]

P.S.
I've had a few girls who showed interest in me but they were below a 6-6.5 so I did not want to have sex with them.

What do you rate yourself and what do you think most others rate you?

 

[logicallefty]

Simple: they know you are in a dry spell. Women can literally smell if you are hitting other women or not and if not then you aren't as attractive. They just know. I like to think they smell the vag of our last lay on our cvck, but in reality it's prolly in how we subconciously carry ourselves that they figure it out. Our confidence and what not. Whatever it is it's been a topic here before that if you aren't hitting any then you will have a hard time hitting one. Solution: find one you absolutely know you can hit. An old plate perhaps or maybe one that is slightly below your normal scale? Have sex with her. Then Once you hit her a time or two then you can hit many, your dry spell should cease.

 

[RangerMIke]

All your targets are women in their 20s, and salsa clubs.

Shake things up, try going to cooking or art classes, or yoga (my personal favorite), try going out with older women in their 30s. If all I did was limited myself to women in their 20s I'd have problems as well. Women in their 20s can be fun, but they are the most emotionally fickle idiots in the world.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

Did you get a full time job? Did you suddenly start being financially and physically responsible with yourself? Have you went up a more positive path since?

 

[CuddleJunkie]

I remember a thread from you about a girl that had to catch a bus to go see you. What happened with her man?
Basically what logicallefty said. Get laid with a 6, then go for your pre-dryspell numbers. And spice things up a little, join some other activities as RangerMike suggested. Artsy girls are fun as hell, they tend to be weird as ****.

 

[marmel75]

Lack of escalation, display of sexuality and being afraid to make a move when you want will kill your chances every time.

 

[Serenity]

Imagine being freshly fvcked, believe it as if it was true. Carry yourself accordingly. Problem solved.

 

[finality]

@ OP, do you fap to porn?

 

[ubercat]

Hey firstly great job on creating opportunities bro. Now we just have to work on your closing a little bit.

Hard to go past RM s advice. If you're always trying to pick up in a party scene you'll always get party girls.

I find my local farmer's market is a good pick up venue.

The good coffee stand always has a big Q so you get talking to girls there.

There are always buskers so you can say hey that guy is great because blah blah and ask them what sort of music they like then move the conversation on how it makes them feel.

One tactic I use on dates sometimes is if I'm escalating with the girl, and I always am I will say we need another drink and then on the way start chatting to some girl in view of her.

80% of the time it seems to make them a bit more receptive and turns into a makeout session.

And look I hate to go all PUA on your ass but have you studied escalation. For girls there's a big mental side and just grabbing their ass doesn't do much for them.

I'm just some old dog definitely no Brad Pitt. And if a girl is ok with my first initial Kino would end up making out with her 80% of the time on a first date and I generally get to at least third base. @dustmuffin is a mature guy and I think he would back me up on this. If you escalate properly it's kind of like your own superpower.

 

[fastlife]

Sounds like you got complacent. You're stuck doing what used to work, even though it quit working for you a year-and-a-half ago. We're guys. We like predictability. We like comfort zones....but you lose that edge that made you attractive in the first place.

You need to kill online dating; it's IME (Tinder at least) totally broken for the purposes of meeting women. Or attractive women, anyway. You need to try different venues. You need to readjust your mindsets. I'll tell you something I've figured out--I have to play it wayyyy more persistent now than I did 3-4 years ago. I only go for exceptionally attractive girls in the <21 age group and the competition for their attention is absolutely brutal. Laid back guy game might work in your social circle, but unless you're an absolute approach machine you'll have to put up with flakes, you'll have to put up with them sometimes not texting you back, and you'll ABSOLUTELY have to escalate toward sex RELENTLESSLY and APOLOGETICALLY if you get them one on one--because you only get one shot usually.

You should probably stop trying for Day 2's and start pushing for same night lays. Those are actually higher percentage plays as crazy as that sounds.

It's kinda screwed up, but it is what it is. Welcome to dating young hot girls in 2016. The other solution is to lower your standards and plate 'em.

 

[marmel75]

Sounds like you got complacent. You're stuck doing what used to work, even though it quit working for you a year-and-a-half ago. We're guys. We like predictability. We like comfort zones....but you lose that edge that made you attractive in the first place.

You need to kill online dating; it's IME (Tinder at least) totally broken for the purposes of meeting women. Or attractive women, anyway. You need to try different venues. You need to readjust your mindsets. I'll tell you something I've figured out--I have to play it wayyyy more persistent now than I did 3-4 years ago. I only go for exceptionally attractive girls in the <21 age group and the competition for their attention is absolutely brutal. Laid back guy game might work in your social circle, but unless you're an absolute approach machine you'll have to put up with flakes, you'll have to put up with them sometimes not texting you back, and you'll ABSOLUTELY have to escalate toward sex RELENTLESSLY and APOLOGETICALLY if you get them one on one--because you only get one shot usually.

You should probably stop trying for Day 2's and start pushing for same night lays. Those are actually higher percentage plays as crazy as that sounds.

It's kinda screwed up, but it is what it is. Welcome to dating young hot girls in 2016. The other solution is to lower your standards and plate 'em.

I think you mean UNAPOLOGETICALLY instead of APOLOGETICALLY

 

[fastlife]

I think you mean UNAPOLOGETICALLY instead of APOLOGETICALLY

Definitely UNAPOLOGETICALLY lol

 

[Mr Wright]

12 leads in 1.5 years? No wonder you're not getting laid, some of these interactions can barely count as anything. Go outside and regularly hit on women for 2-3 months then come back and complain about a lack of success if things aren't working out. Get into interactions, they don't have to be long, just escalate, ask for the number and seed meet ups on the spot. There's always going to be an element of it being a numbers game.

 

[nismo-4]

All your targets are women in their 20s, and salsa clubs.

Shake things up, try going to cooking or art classes, or yoga (my personal favorite), try going out with older women in their 30s. If all I did was limited myself to women in their 20s I'd have problems as well. Women in their 20s can be fun, but they are the most emotionally fickle idiots in the world.

Older bytches 40+ are fickle too. They ain't no different. They pull the attention seeking, LJBF routines too. And all women have exes. I have a one strike rule for a reason.

If you don't get a second date or a lay, you have failed to be better than her exes and the men she's currently with.

 

[3agle 3yes]

I guess you'd love it if one of us posted advice on a slight adjustment and when you did you're success would straight through the roof.

Unfortunately (for you) I don't think that's going to happen, sometimes things like this happen (in a row), logistics and other things just get in the way.

I did notice this though...

I've been under a dry spell for 1.5 years now, and the thing is that I DONT KNOW WHY.
Before this I used to have sex with a few girls every year...

When you say "a few" how much is that?

Like I said above, sometimes sh!t just happens. But if your count is usually low to begin with it only takes a few unlucky situations to turn "a few" into "none".

How much free time do you have op?

If you're anything like me (i.e. Really busy), dedicate a time for social activities and dedicate a time for work and when you do either one be 100% present in it.

 

[RangerMIke]

Older bytches 40+ are fickle too. They ain't no different. They pull the attention seeking, LJBF routines too. And all women have exes. I have a one strike rule for a reason.

If you don't get a second date or a lay, you have failed to be better than her exes and the men she's currently with.

All women are the same. You change things up, not for the women, but to give you a different perspective. Keep doing the same thing and going after the same kind of women makes your game stale. You have to play money ball rather than swinging for the fences all the time.