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Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
demographics...Is it really that bad in Atlanta?
I have no problem with guys hitting on women if women are wanting to be hit on. Ive been a bouncer for years andcseen it night after night. What I have a problem with is guy continuing to hit on women who have made it really clear that they are not interested. Guy who grope every womean they meet are not that cool either. If the poster has any sort of game he wont be that guy.It's a bar you hit on women. Ofcourse the **** is sleazy. Your statement terms of white knight syndrome.
A white knight is a guy who wants to step in and "save" a girl, and goes overboard with it.
I don't know I'd say there's quite a bit of overlap there. All I did was take out the word "drunken" from the second quote.These guys just seem like... idiots who see a guy stealing their girls, or stealing their targets, or having a little success with women, and they are maybe a little jealous and want to take him down a peg.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I don't really think there's much overlap. The motivations are completely different. Seems like these guys are just jealous that someone else is taking their women, or their targets. I don't see them as looking to "save" the girls from being harassed or disrespected.I don't know I'd say there's quite a bit of overlap there. All I did was take out the word "drunken" from the second quote.
I think the motives are related, white knights are usually jealous that women end up with dudes they label as a$$holes. In the OP's case they were telling him to respect his girl and get a room, so they prob saw him as the a$$hole and were taking their drunken white knight frustrations out on him. But who knows for sure.I don't really think there's much overlap. The motivations are completely different. Seems like these guys are just jealous that someone else is taking their women, or their targets. I don't see them as looking to "save" the girls from being harassed or disrespected.
I have no problem with guys hitting on women if women are wanting to be hit on. Ive been a bouncer for years andcseen it night after night. What I have a problem with is guy continuing to hit on women who have made it really clear that they are not interested. Guy who grope every womean they meet are not that cool either. If the poster has any sort of game he wont be that guy.
Dont get me wrong. If you are getting it on in an alley somewhere or she is into you get as much tit grab as you can get. BRAVO.
But yeah, I am not being a whire knight when my job is to deal with complaints from women about guys being offensive, although I do get that it is a fine line sometimes.
IMO, only white knights get jealous over such women in the first place and instigate violence. They are one in the same if you will.I don't really think there's much overlap. The motivations are completely different. Seems like these guys are just jealous that someone else is taking their women, or their targets. I don't see them as looking to "save" the girls from being harassed or disrespected.
Its all good. I do what my manager tells me to do whether I agree or not. I think that girls dress and act like drunken sluts quite often then get offended because a guy isn't the sort of guy that they wanted to hit on them. It pisses me off but when they come and sob to the usual blue pill manager I normally have and he says, "throw that ******* out" WTF am I supposed to do?Sorry, but I've never met a bouncer who wasnt a white knight. It's literally what you guys are paid to do for the most part. Perhaps you are the exception.... But your post had hints of wk in there.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Its all good. I do what my manager tells me to do whether I agree or not. I think that girls dress and act like drunken sluts quite often then get offended because a guy isn't the sort of guy that they wanted to hit on them. It pisses me off but when they come and sob to the usual blue pill manager I normally have and he says, "throw that ******* out" WTF am I supposed to do?
Depends on personality. You need a ****load of patience, dealing with drunken idiots all night. On a good night you are in a club filled with young women who want to have fun. If you have a bit of charm, you will get lucky.Yeah, I can understand that. I often wondered what it would be like to be a bouncer.
Your first sentence is extreme white knight syndrome. You should never feel any instinct to protect a strange.I would say I'm going to protect a woman if she doesn't want the other guy hitting on her. Not because I'm jealous, not to score points with her. It's simply because I don't stand by watching someone being harrassed, which it is if she clearly do not want it. I would do the same if someone harrassed a guy.
Does that make me a white knight? Not by the definition I'm familiar with. As @zekko said, they step in to "save" a girl and goes overboard with it. Meaning they save women who don't need saving. I would ask if she needs any help, if no then she's in the situation voluntarily and thus it isn't harrassment.
Same goes for the situation of being a bouncer. You don't stop guys from hitting on girls for no reason, you just stop a guy from hitting on a particular girl who don't want to be hit on. Girls mostly get to the point of getting help because the guy doesn't accept the rejection, he has lost. Instead of going to the next like any sane man on this board would do, he instead delusionally continue to bother a woman thinking he can get his way. THAT is harrassment, it's as much a help to the loser guy as it is to the woman.
We even do it on this forum by telling a guy to "next", but we don't consider that white knighting do we? Even though it probably benefits the woman to finally get rid of a guy.
Oh ok. If I ever see you getting the sh!t kicked out of you I'll just walk ignorantly by minding my own business. Because I shouldn't feel the need to help a stranger.Your first sentence is extreme white knight syndrome. You should never feel any instinct to protect a strange.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Oh ok. If I ever see you getting the sh!t kicked out of you I'll just walk ignorantly by minding my own business. Because I shouldn't feel the need to help a stranger.
If you were here I would be the one beating the sh!t out of you. If anyone came to help I'd just say you'd prefer they mind their own business, then just continue.If you were smart, you would.
I recently watched American Sniper, and this reminded me of the part where the father teaches his kids to be sheepdogs, not wolves or sheep (The wolf is a bully, the sheep get victimized, and the sheepdogs help others out in need).I would say I'm going to protect a woman if she doesn't want the other guy hitting on her. Not because I'm jealous, not to score points with her. It's simply because I don't stand by watching someone being harrassed, which it is if she clearly do not want it. I would do the same if someone harrassed a guy.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.