"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Help me write my OLD profile

Young OG

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So, I took a good shirtless pic and I'm going to try out OLD again. Last time I tried it, I had no muscles and I was a afc/blue pill.

Help me write my profile. I'm going to start out using Tinder and POF. The problem is, I don't do much besides work on cars and take my car to car shows. I'm not sure if I should just lie about hobbies or what. I don't want to sound boring. I also don't see anything on Tinder so far that asks my height. I'm not that tall. Should I say I'm a inch taller when I am when forced to provide a height? When I message chicks, what is the best thing to say? I'm not looking for a LTR, I just want to bang.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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A fellow carguy .
Don't write too many things. You are selling information for free. Just write that you are athletic and that you like music. Most chicks buy those things.Put some fake info but not too much away from the reality.
 

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Keep it 8 more than 92. Don't fabricate any information. That way, it avoids the awkward "hey you're not...." conversation at least on your part. Plus, I'm pretty sure you're good enough as is, it's stupid to lie when don't need to.

If it's an insecurity you don't want to list, simply omit it. Write your real interests down so when you meet up with the slvt you wanna bang it's a meetup and not an audtion for some sort of online character you've created.

Don't worry about being "boring" she could care less, focus on how good the pictures of you are. Try to have some where your somewhere with people doing something, paticularly women. Don't want you're prof filled with too many simple selfies unless you're gorgeous.

Prepare yourself for a lot of trial and error, alot of the girls aren't gonna be as hot as they were online and worse they could even turn out fat. Alot of them will flake and some suddenly go cold. Sometimes you will get a gem though, and that's what makes it worth it. Work on your text game too.
 

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I took a good shirtless pic

Girls and guys define "good" differently. If you are alone in your bedroom or bathroom and flexing in front of the mirror, that's creepy. A good shirtless selfie is doing something out in public, with friends, where it is normal and expected to not have a shirt on.
 

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Look, are you selling or buying?

are you the prize or is she?

IMO you've get to set up a few hoops for her....you've got to set your expectations and
let her come into that...

what do I mean? You can write "I'm a person who thinks every relationship needs to have
positive emotions. I try to bring positive emotions to every encounter. IF you're a person
who carries positive emotions feel free to send me a message"

You see the IF? It's a fvcking qualifier....she'll want to qualify herself

You can write as many if's as you like...

One thing I did before and it was incredible how much it worked and how so
many hoes gave me the same response....

I posted something about the perreto principle...

Yeah it was ****y. I said that 80% of the chicks her ain't worth my time, that I am in the
20% of quality people. IF you think you are too....

Incredible how many responses I got that said "I'm in the 20%"
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I took a good shirtless pic

Girls and guys define "good" differently. If you are alone in your bedroom or bathroom and flexing in front of the mirror, that's creepy. A good shirtless selfie is doing something out in public, with friends, where it is normal and expected to not have a shirt on.
I used a tripod with a smart phone adaptor to take the pic through the mirror in my bathroom. The door is behind me and I cropped it around the mirror. It just looks like I'm standing in front of a door. My pose makes it look almost like a modeling picture lol. I would have taken the pic somewhere else in my house, but for some reason the lighting in there makes my abs show more.

Look, are you selling or buying?

are you the prize or is she?

IMO you've get to set up a few hoops for her....you've got to set your expectations and
let her come into that...

what do I mean? You can write "I'm a person who thinks every relationship needs to have
positive emotions. I try to bring positive emotions to every encounter. IF you're a person
who carries positive emotions feel free to send me a message"

You see the IF? It's a fvcking qualifier....she'll want to qualify herself

You can write as many if's as you like...

One thing I did before and it was incredible how much it worked and how so
many hoes gave me the same response....

I posted something about the perreto principle...

Yeah it was ****y. I said that 80% of the chicks her ain't worth my time, that I am in the
20% of quality people. IF you think you are too....

Incredible how many responses I got that said "I'm in the 20%"
This is great. Thanks.
 

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Well, in 48 hours on OLD I have had more luck then I did in 2 months over a year ago. I couldnt even get a date or replies last time. It really shows how much a good shirtless pic that shows muscles and abs can improve your game. Plus, I used some things I learned on here when it came to the messages. I already have a date set up for Saturday, unless she flakes. Tinder seems to have a lot of spammers...
 

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google Naughty Ninja POF Number grabs...the thread should be stickied for online dating, but instead its been deleted because the poster was banned, and apparently the mods went on a power trip over it...a shame, it had a TON of great advice in it.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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google Naughty Ninja POF Number grabs...the thread should be stickied for online dating, but instead its been deleted because the poster was banned, and apparently the mods went on a power trip over it...a shame, it had a TON of great advice in it.
Thanks. I found the thread. Its great for POF. Do you know of any good openers for matches on Tinder or a thread that has some?
 
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