Women find Evil men erotic and arrousing

[PlayHer Man]

To be fair (and I just love calling people out on their irony and hypocrisy), most of us men do the same ****. Hell, it's all over these damn boards. Dumb skanks, crazy *****es, stuck up ****s, in-demand players, fake barbies, manipulators, teases, controlling / abusive women... the worst of the worst. And men can't get enough - despite claiming to hate them; all women are ****; etc - while seeking them out (and complaining about them) time and again. Same thing women are doing! And, like the women - it's because they're hot, have value, pull the right triggers, etc.

It's ATTRACTION that's not logical - not the gender, ****'s universal, my friend.

Indeed.

Its because the qualities that generate sexual arousal have nothing to do with the qualities that make you like a person. This goes for both genders.

As men.. we need to focus less on being "likable" and more on being f*ckable. That's how you get the hotties.

 

[floydb25]

Indeed.

Its because the qualities that generate sexual arousal have nothing to do with the qualities that make you like a person. This goes for both genders.

As men.. we need to focus less on being "likable" and more on being f*ckable. That's how you get the hotties.

Agreed... and I say the same thing A LOT. Nobody cares how nice, caring, or good you are - only how "hot", in-demand, funny, sexually exciting, etc you are. Many of the same traits that are sexually attractive to the opposite sex are repelling to those of the same. So, expect to receive a lot of hate, WK'ing, and general dislike towards you. Especially when you act like a flamboyant, conceited douche rocket.

But hey, who cares what men think. Do NOT try to gain their approval, or listen to their BS. I've heard it all - by the same people who couldn't get ****, but thought they knew it all. Literally as the girls were surrounding me and not them... which is where a lot of hate and jealousy stems from, as well. Much of their contempt is used under the guise of advice... there's a LOT of down-sizing and competition behind it. Or, they simply don't like you and find you annoying.

For me, I just focus on women now.

 

[LMFAO]

To be fair (and I just love calling people out on their irony and hypocrisy), most of us men do the same ****. Hell, it's all over these damn boards. Dumb skanks, crazy *****es, stuck up ****s, in-demand players, fake barbies, manipulators, teases, controlling / abusive women... the worst of the worst. And men can't get enough

Wrong. Most men would like a beautiful woman who isn't a lying, manipulating b1tch, but a nice and intelligent woman. There's nothing for us to like from this sort of b1tch personality. It just so happens that many hot women have this character, so many guys on this forum attempt to persevere (of course they shouldn't bother most of the time).

Men are not attracted to the arrogance of b1tches.
Women are attracted to the ****iness and arrogance of men. They like bad boys.

 

[backbreaker]

Wrong. Most men would like a beautiful woman who isn't a lying, manipulating b1tch, but a nice and intelligent woman. There's nothing for us to like from this sort of b1tch personality. It just so happens that many hot women have this character, so many guys on this forum attempt to persevere (of course they shouldn't bother most of the time).

Men are not attracted to the arrogance of b1tches.
Women are attracted to the ****iness and arrogance of men. They like bad boys.

dude how can you not see the irony in your own post.

SANE/Normal women who date jerks aren't attracted to their ****ty attitudes or chatacter, they are attracted to the alpha male qualities that they exhibit IN SPITE OF their persona or personality

this is the same thing you just said about women. you just said it. you don't like women that are stuck up but you have to deal with stuck up women or at least weed through them if you want to date in 2013. How do you think women are any different?

this is taken from pook's be a man post

The Cycle

The Nice Guy emerges. He is tenderized and wants to shout in every woman's ear "I will not abuse you. I am sweet and good. Based on that alone you should date me." When the Nice Guy talks to the girl on a date, *poof*, the date turns into Oprah. "Oh, my life has been SO downhill from here," the Nice Guy whines. "My little girly car was slashed, I failed my classes, but because of you this day has been so much better." Then the Nice Guy goes, "Let me tell you my life story. My birth was long, hard, and painful for my mother..." Our culture has become so feminized that the Nice Guy thinks it is proper to vomit his feelings and emotions all over the place. (It's gross!) Women, rightfully, run for the hills when they hear your declarations of love.

The Metamorphosis comes. The Nice Guy eventually realizes what all the ladies want, becomes bitter, and changes himself into a Jerk. His goal now is to sleep with as many women as possible and figure out all the tricks and tactics to do so. He focuses on calculation rather then natural joy. When a woman comes, he pulls out a chart of all the 'moves' and 'tactics' with arrows and patterns. He unleashes his lap top, accesses a Lay Guide, and reviews his strategy. Time passes and once was fun becomes meaningless.

Back to being nice. He sees it now as turning on Nice Guy or turning on Jerk. "Why can't I just be myself!?" he soon thunders at Reality.

Just be a Man! There is no need to reprogram yourself. You will have the interests you have, the hobbies you have, the body you have, but you can easily become a MAN. It is all simply in the way how you think and as you think you shall become. But what is Man? Shall we have the answer? Here it is:

I don't know one freaking normal woman that sits around the water cooler adn says "damni need a dude to beat the **** out of me" or I LOVE it when Jim deals with other women


this is the attitude of this forum or at least a lot of members

I was a nice guy

I got rejected

the girl liked a jerk alpha male

therefore women like jerks

This is why I strongly believe most men when they come here need to take a break from women you are looking at women from a hurt point of view. normal women don't like this. they tolerate it for lack of better options


this is from pook's feeling down about your love life post. this is good ****

Nice Guys

Look at these guys in their relationships or in their marriages. You know who wears the pants in the relationship. These poor guys never understood the Game and are just relieved to have settled down. They are AFCs for life.

Most nice guys spend their 20's in misery until women in their 30's are ready to settle down. It is so sad to see these AFCs in such manner.

Some got a bit wise and looked at Dating Books. Unfortunately, most books make Nice Guys more feminine because they are written on what women SAY but not what they DO.

These poor chaps have no backbone! I watched my (then) roomate get a call from a girl saying that she was hungry and because she was studying, HE was to go to Subway to get her a sandwhich! Alas, he did this. This patheticness is not the exception, it is the common.

See that cutie pie in those oh so tight pants? Most guys would chicken out in approaching her. In fact, many would go, "Run! Don't let us know that we are looking at her!" Pathetic! Pathetic! Pathetic!

Or the guy who calls the girl of his affections night after night, hour after hour? Pathetic!

When I was young, I remember a guy driving ALL the way to my house (I live out in the boonies) to return to my sister a glove. She was pleasant but didn't let him get in the front door. She said to me, "Whatever you do, do not act like that. Do not call a girl all the time. Do not act that way."

Or a co-worker, completely infatuated, follows the girl around like a puppy. The proximity is obvious. When he wasn't around, all the girls would get together and laugh and joke at him, all declaring how pathetic he was. Aren't you glad you're not that guy now?

When my sister and her boyfriend were going out, my sister was breaking up and getting back together with him again and again and again. He wised up and eventually thundered, "Listen woman! Either stay with me or go! Make up your damn mind." She stayed with him and the two married. If he was a 'nice guy' and scared of confrontation, do you think she would have stayed with him? No.

What about the guys who just sit there and wait for girls to approach them? In their mind, they think, "Please ask me out!" Guys should never count on women to ask them out.

Or in the married life, nice guys who are afraid to lead because of their passitivity. They often marry the wrong woman because they are so tender to their own emotions and oblivious to reality. Indeed, there are shmiels who's wifes cheat on them constantly... and they put up with it.

Jerk

These and the Nice Guy are but one of the same, while a Nice Guy introverts himself, the Jerk extroverts himself. While the Nice Guy is constantly passive, the Jerk is constantly aggressive.

While the Nice Guy hides his sexuality and can't get chicks to be attracted to him (but are good long term relationship material, as girls confirm by saying to Nice Guy, "You're not the type of guy I'd date, you're the type I'd marry") the jerk erupts his sexuality everywhere, gets chicks attracted to him, but can never keep them.

The jerk has no confidence, which is why he is a jerk in the first place. True criticisms sting him and collapses his spirit.

Notice how the Jerk may get chicks long enough for sex, he fails completely in life. He ends up being a janitor or something similiar. The girls he bedded with? All of them insecure little girls. It is pathetic and very very sad.

Some guys have gotten confident enough to take action, talk to girls, etc. But very few have true backbone. Even fewer then that have the Don Juan skills expressed in the articles and on this forum.

Most guys are pathetic. Most are chumps. Women simply get tired of looking and will 'settle' for who they are with. It is so sad.

But you, on the other hand, you are not a chump and are definetely not pathetic. You are a good catch. Fear not having no intimacy right now, for with your mindset and skills will ensure you luxurious intimacy for the course of your life.

Can the Passive (Nice) Guy speak of true passion within his relationship? Can the Jerk (Coward) speak of true success and true maturity within relationships? Of course not.

You are enlightened and know something 99% of the other guys do not: how to handle women. For if you don't, women will handle you.

One out of four marriages is when the woman never loved the guy anyway but just 'settled down'. Out of the 'love' marriages, most of the women fall out of love. More women then men commit adultery. 80% of relationships are broken up by women.

from pook's 15 lessons

Women would rather share a successful man than be attached to a faithful loser.

Many women do not marry for love.

Most divorces end up with the guy cherishing the woman but the woman detesting the man.

Even for long-term marriage, the Don Juan is the way to go.

The ‘innocent, nice girl’ is often the horniest and likely uninnocent.

Many women consider your looks, your career, what you can offer them, before your integrity and character.

Women are more sexual than men can even dream.

Women are not attracted to genius, only strength and imagination

Woman’s sole mission is union, either for pleasure or the fruits of children. She cares nothing for your philosophy and all except to either use it to catch interest in a guy or to enthrone herself.

Women, in sex, desire to be treated as an object and relish it.

Women place value in societal links; how they are thought of. You become her ego.

 

[floydb25]

Wrong. Most men would like a beautiful woman who isn't a lying, manipulating b1tch, but a nice and intelligent woman. There's nothing for us to like from this sort of b1tch personality. It just so happens that many hot women have this character, so many guys on this forum attempt to persevere (of course they shouldn't bother most of the time).

Men are not attracted to the arrogance of b1tches.
Women are attracted to the ****iness and arrogance of men. They like bad boys.

Not to ignite a flame war, but this is such bull****. Men specifically chase after bad girls and *****es, all the same. They ARE attracted to their wild, promiscuous, naughty, even arrogant side. The fake sluts and skanks, or just straight up *****es. Like you REALLY can't tell when someone is a *****, or bad news. Get that **** outta here.

There ARE natural, classy, kind "beautiful" women out there. But most guys like the trashy bad girls who play games, dress like skanks, look like pornstars, are loud and flashy, aggressive and conceited, use vulgar language, act like men, have arrogant attitudes, entitlement mentalities, immaturity out the ass, treat men like objects, the works.

Being hot is just one aspect of their appeal, and these girls are fake, shallow hot on top of that. They dress to impress, and are more innately naughty and flirtacious than kind or welcoming. There's an aura of value surrounding them - which they're not oblivious to, and exploit to the fullest. Again, the bad girl pornstar look. The SAME traits women find appealing. The look + charm + attitude + value + dark traits. All while claiming to want a nice girl, complaining about *****es, blah blah.

Same ****, different gender. Even as far as limiting their selection to this specific type of woman, and complaining about the same things they are with their bad boys and *******s.

****, I've been right in the middle of this vicious cycle for years, and still get turned on by bad girls. Guilty as anybody. Being attracted to losers is NOT gender-based. A bad girl or boy doesn't necessarily mean they are *******s, either.

 

[( . )( . )]

There ARE natural, classy, kind "beautiful" women out there. But most guys like the trashy bad girls who play games, dress like skanks, look like pornstars, are loud and flashy, aggressive and conceited, use vulgar language, act like men, have arrogant attitudes, entitlement mentalities, immaturity out the ass, treat men like objects, the works.

http://www.palzoo.net/file/pic/gallery/1311_view.jpg

 

[LMFAO]

I think we've entered a parallel universe in this thread.

 

[floydb25]

http://www.palzoo.net/file/pic/gallery/1311_view.jpg

I don't see what's so hard to grasp... These are the kind of *****es men chase after, and complain about EVERY SINGLE DAY on here. The teases, AW's, game-players, actual players, *****es, etc. Maybe they just haven't gotten far enough to see their true evil colors yet... oh, but they would sure love to! If only they become bad and douchey enough to attract them, and not just be manipulated, used, or strung along by them. Dip****s.

Again, like they REALLY can't tell girls like this are trouble, from the jump. And it just gets worse and worse - because they're toxic, troubled people. This is NOT a prize to be won. Woohoo! I landed a crazy retard! HIGH FIVES ALL!

Die. :nono:

 

[( . )( . )]

I don't see what's so hard to grasp... These are the kind of *****es men chase after, and complain about EVERY SINGLE DAY on here. The teases, AW's, game-players, actual players, *****es, etc. Maybe they just haven't gotten far enough to see their true evil colors yet.

Or maybe that's all that's available to them and their limited skill set.

 

[floydb25]

Or maybe that's all that's available to them and their limited skill set.

I'd wager it's moreso what they're attracted to. Loving drama, misery, chaos, unpredictability, mind games, etc isn't gender-based, and neither is having low self-esteem, jaded views, and other issues. Most people attracted to bad types aren't all that good themselves, and share many of the same traits, issues, insecurities, failures, and experiences. They can relate to them instantly. They're not, for example, optimistic, happy, kind, fun-loving, open, etc... otherwise it's what they would be seeking after and attracting. They're only "nice" to people worse than themselves - while still caught in the same circle of *******s and losers. Like all those PoF skanks in denial.

Never forget that like attracts like. What you're focusing on (and probably *****ing about) is what you are. Maybe you just don't see it, since you're too busy *****ing about everyone else. Which, in itself, is part of the problem, and the vibes you give off to others as a result. Negativity attracts negative people. And so the cycle continues; the further down you go

(Not referring to you specifically.)

 

[backbreaker]

There ARE natural, classy, kind "beautiful" women out there. But most guys like the trashy bad girls who play games, dress like skanks, look like pornstars, are loud and flashy, aggressive and conceited, use vulgar language, act like men, have arrogant attitudes, entitlement mentalities, immaturity out the ass, treat men like objects, the works.

most guys want them, they just don't think they can get them

the avg guy has ****ty self esteem and most of the time it's warranted.


guys settle for trashy game playing skanks just like women settle for arrogant alpha males

 

[Mike32ct]

Men don't go after bad girls because they like bad traits. They go after them because they are PERCEIVED as EASY/PROMISCUOUS.

Men perceive the nice good girls as prudes that will make us wait and expect commitment.

Men would LOVE a decent looking nice girl that has casual sex. Ever had a ONS with a female that was nice? I have. It's fantastic. It's like the Gf Experience that you don't have to pay a hooker big money for. But finding a genuinely nice girl for a fling isn't so easy.

Women don't have to worry about who is EASY or not. Almost all men (good or bad) are easy lol.

Actually part of me sort of wonders if nice guys are viewed by women as prudes sexually. Some women have told me "they can't picture mr. Nice guy having sex." But there another topic.

 

[BlackEricNorthman]

There is quite a bit of negativity and unfocused anger with many members of this board. This thread is really bringing out some serious bruised egos.

I think quite a few of you guys would benefit from typing up or writing out a list of your strongest traits and values, and a separate list of the pros and cons that you seek or have experienced from various women.

Embrace your positive traits and values. If you don't have many or aren't happy with the ones you have then you have your starting points for immediate improvement. Do not use these as a checklist to rattle off to some girl in a shallow means to impress her. It's a mental checklist to give you confidence, personal milestones to accomplish and an understanding of why you truly are a rare trophy male.

With your pros and cons list of women that you have known or (would like to know) you will have a general idea of the type of women you prefer in your company, as well as a way to start screening the undesirables. Chicks do the same thing judging your appearance, car, etc and most even tell us blatantly what you must have to even speak to them. Turn about is fair play.

The result of punching up these lists is that it makes you focused. You start to realize your goals gaining solid confidence and exude what makes you valuable in this world. You also have higher standards for the female company you keep so you separate the wheat from the chaff early by pre-selection.

 

[floydb25]

Men don't go after bad girls because they like bad traits. They go after them because they are PERCEIVED as EASY/PROMISCUOUS.

Men perceive the nice good girls as prudes that will make us wait and expect commitment.

Men would LOVE a decent looking nice girl that has casual sex. Ever had a ONS with a female that was nice? I have. It's fantastic. It's like the Gf Experience that you don't have to pay a hooker big money for. But finding a genuinely nice girl for a fling isn't so easy.

Women don't have to worry about who is EASY or not. Almost all men (good or bad) are easy lol.

Actually part of me sort of wonders if nice guys are viewed by women as prudes sexually. Some women have told me "they can't picture mr. Nice guy having sex." But there another topic.

Disagree, but the premise works both ways. Most women like bad boys for ONS', as well, but don't want to get caught up in their BS. I used to be quite the *******, and most chicks were only interested in sex... especially once they found out how crazy I was.

Women are smarter than men think. They know who they're targeting, and what their intentions are. They just don't want everyone else to know - including the guy they're trying to have a ONS with - especially when they're just hooking up, have boyfriends already, etc. A lot of their drama and *****ing about *******s is over-exaggerated, as well. They just like to ***** and complain, seek sympathy, and claim everyone is a jerk whenever things don't go their way.

Truth is, most *******s and bad boys don't last very long with most women... namely because the women who are into them are just as crazy as they are. All of the BS gets to be too much eventually, and one or the other calls it quits for good. Never fails, and these relationships are rocky and chaotic throughout.

But I was friends with a lot of guys who dated bad girls. They always told me - amidst their non-stop complaining about their crazy, heartless ***** at the time - that some girls were just too nice... too available, too submissive, too interested, too easy, too sweet. They liked someone who kept them on their toes, could keep up with them, were aggressive, dominant, independent, unpredictable... just like themselves. Crazy attracted crazy. *******s attracted *****es. And these guys were definitely bad... they always cheated on the side, were loud, douchey, and selfish, got involved in drugs and violence, occassionally hit their women once a fight escalated... but all of this was mutual, and the theme of their entire relationship. They'd curse at each other, get into fights, break things, act rude to others, blame each other, call each other out... it's just the kind of people they were.

Of course, none of those relationships lasted for very long, either. Chaos can't sustain itself. It's just, at the time, or even when they ***** about it after the fact, it seems so intense and detailed and dramatic. And it leaves an unforgettable mark. But despite the heightened emotions they may have about it, those relationships did not last very long. 3-15 months at most. As always, looks and sexual attraction played a vital role in keeping these hellish relationships afloat. Aside from the sex, these people hated each other, but were mutually crazy and dysfunctional enough to keep it going.

I was guilty of this, as well, but definitely not to this extreme. Most people and relationships simply aren't very good, and people like to complain and play the victim. Being bad is by no means a free pass to fun and excitement and long-lasting relationships and respect from others. People just assume too much and delude themselves without any actual facts or first-hand experiences. No different than people who judge others - based on what they see, hear, or how they think things are - only to end up dead-wrong about everything.

 

[Mike32ct]

Disagree, but the premise works both ways. Most women like bad boys for ONS', as well, but don't want to get caught up in their BS. I used to be quite the *******, and most chicks were only interested in sex... especially once they found out how crazy I was.

Ok.

Women are smarter than men think. They know who they're targeting, and what their intentions are. They just don't want everyone else to know - including the guy they're trying to have a ONS with - especially when they're just hooking up, have boyfriends already, etc. A lot of their drama and *****ing about *******s is over-exaggerated, as well. They just like to ***** and complain, seek sympathy, and claim everyone is a jerk whenever things don't go their way.

I agree with this. Women are not stupid. They know exactly what they are doing.

Truth is, most *******s and bad boys don't last very long with most women... namely because the women who are into them are just as crazy as they are. All of the BS gets to be too much eventually, and one or the other calls it quits for good. Never fails, and these relationships are rocky and chaotic throughout.

No doubt.

But I was friends with a lot of guys who dated bad girls. They always told me - amidst their non-stop complaining about their crazy, heartless ***** at the time - that some girls were just too nice... too available, too submissive, too interested, too easy, too sweet. They liked someone who kept them on their toes, could keep up with them, were aggressive, dominant, independent, unpredictable... just like themselves. Crazy attracted crazy. *******s attracted *****es. And these guys were definitely bad... they always cheated on the side, were loud, douchey, and selfish, got involved in drugs and violence, occassionally hit their women once a fight escalated... but all of this was mutual, and the theme of their entire relationship. They'd curse at each other, get into fights, break things, act rude to others, blame each other, call each other out... it's just the kind of people they were.

Of course, none of those relationships lasted for very long, either. Chaos can't sustain itself. It's just, at the time, or even when they ***** about it after the fact, it seems so intense and detailed and dramatic. And it leaves an unforgettable mark. But despite the heightened emotions they may have about it, those relationships did not last very long. 3-15 months at most. As always, looks and sexual attraction played a vital role in keeping these hellish relationships afloat. Aside from the sex, these people hated each other, but were mutually crazy and dysfunctional enough to keep it going.

I was guilty of this, as well, but definitely not to this extreme. Most people and relationships simply aren't very good, and people like to complain and play the victim. Being bad is by no means a free pass to fun and excitement and long-lasting relationships and respect from others. People just assume too much and delude themselves without any actual facts or first-hand experiences. No different than people who judge others - based on what they see, hear, or how they think things are - only to end up dead-wrong about everything.

I see your point. I was probably projecting MY views on most men. Being an a$shole to women just isn't in me. Thus, her being bad doesnt do much for me. When I was younger and less experienced, the only reason I would check out a bad girl was her looks AND the (misguided) belief that she was EASiER.

Of course, any experienced DJ knows that bad girl sluts are quite picky. They are "easy" to a small percentage of guys and nearly impossible to the others lol.

 

[floydb25]

Agreed... bad girls are trash, anyway. They're more crazy than easy. There's a lot of **** involved with them, and they tend to hook you with their craziness. Wild, animalistic sex is always offered, but comes with a price, and isn't always so easy. It's just flaunted constantly, to make you think otherwise. There's always a lot of intentional push / pull involved with it, because they thrive off craziness and control. Bullies who get off on seeing other's suffer - AFTER luring them into it. Then all the breaking up and getting back together... it's chaos.

These *****es are takers, and sexuality is just another tool in their arsenol to keep you hooked. It's not "just sex", and they still pull all the bull**** they do to others. They're master manipulators - just like all the bad boy players - and know how to keep you hooked. Crazy sex and strutting their bodies around is all part of their game. They're still highly controlling, selfish, crazy, demanding, moody, crazy, etc. All the mixed messages, mind games, manipulative attempts to gain control still apply. They mess with everyone's head, piss them off, push / pull... all that ****.

Bad girls tend to go after bad guys because they're just as crazy and dysfunctional as they are. They're not kind, happy, caring people, and don't relate to those who are. But the "league" BS still applies. Being nice and "hot" would still result in them being repelled, insulting you, starting fights, and acting crazy... once the "charm" charade is over, that is. They always seem sweet as pea in the beginning, and many of them are predators and bullies.

Again, all of this is universal. Bad guys act in a similar fashion.

 

[Hydrak]

^your description of a bad girl fits into the personality disorder HPD perfectly. Just as the guys attracted to these girls and their games are psychopaths/narcissists. It's quite sad that society puts a label on them as bad girls or AWs when its clear they have a disorder and should be called out for it accordingly. Most normals who get attaches to borderlines and histrionics are unaware of their disorder and thinks its part of their personality.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder

I'd say that many girls are attracted to some traits in the dark triads but that's because they are male characteristic disorders. Being a full blown sociopath doesn't get many girls once they realize how f**ked up the dude is. The only girls who are fully attracted to narcissists, psychopaths and so on, are girls with female characteristic disorders.

These girls making fanclubs of the boston bomber are obviously not 100% normal. All of them probably has a personality disorder. Since so many people in todays society does, their behaviour might seem pretty normal and they're just "being girls". Just like the girls sending letters to guys in jail. Every girl usually has traits from HPD/BPD since they are female disorders, so utilizing and embracing some traits that NPD/ASP has will up your game and make you more attractive.

 

[floydb25]

Word... but most bad people have issues, and are dysfunctional. It comes with the territory. Most suffer from low self-esteem, have a strong fear of acceptance and abandonment, a plethora of insecurities, etc. As well as mental health issues, coming from broken homes, being on the streets, shunned or bullied, etc. They tear down and bully others to be "above" them, and gain control / keep them dependant on them. This is abuse and manipulation... They always need the upper-hand, and to be in control.

Then you also have things like not caring about anyone other than themselves, using them as objects, backstabbing them... there's too much **** to list, and I've done it all before.

But bad is bad. Bad is trouble. Bad is not created out of thin air, but the result of bad experiences. It's not good in hiding, or free / easy / crazy sex. Bad girls curse, insult, attack, demand, manipulate, control, etc. There's a lot of bitterness, resentment, anger, etc behind all their behaviors and actions.

 

[Doc Kas]

From what I've read betheman, it's about 10%.

And I agree that some women want alpha sperm, and will find a beta to raise the child.

The association between this guy and "alpha" is what I have a problem with, as well as the ignorant assumption that because some deranged subset of women actually want to fuk this guy, there is some valuable lesson to be learned about "game" here.

There are probably far more women interested in nerds than there are that are interested in mass murderers. Obviously, nerds (or the women who love them) aren't sensationalized by the media - so you won't be reminded of that. Are even 10% of women interested in "nerds?" Maybe not. But even if it's only 5%, you'd be hard pressed to argue that even 1% actually find this type of extreme violence sexy. What women do generally find sexy are psychopathic traits (ruthlessness, fearlessness, carefree nonplanfulness, stress immunity, social potency, etc.) that are sublimated.


Listen, I fuked a woman on her honeymoon. I ran a train on a married b!tch on a boat once. I've fuked strippers. I've done all kinds of sh!t and I've seen some outrageous behavior from women - single, engaged, married.

I am far from naive as to many women's inability to control their impulses.

But I'm also smart enough to understand that the type of behavior these women are exhibiting, is atypical and far outside the bounds of normal - which means I shouldn't give a sh!t about it.

If you're honestly that desperate to get a woman that you idolize an indiscriminate mass murderer, be my guest. But as another poster explained, the sexual marketplace is a great big place, with room for all kinds of people. You don't have to be a psychopath to get laid, or - GASP - to find and actually keep a woman that adds value to your life.

Intelligent response and I completely agree.

 

[Doc Kas]

Is it really all that flattering to be a woman's "safe alternative"?

If you reverse the situation.. is like a guy who would prefer to f*ck and be with Minka Kelly.. but since she would treat him like dirt.. he gets in a LTR with someone "safe". A chubby chick with bad skin. He dates her and f*cks her.. but when he masturbates.. its Minka Kelly he thinks about.

Its similar to the person who buys a Toyota because they can't afford a Benz. Sure.. they like the Toyota too.. but its no Benz.

There is a reason women initially go for the bad boy and marry the nice guy. They ALL want the bad boy. Look at Rihanna and Chris Brown. She will probably end up with a beta faggot in the end. But she lusted for the man who smashed her face in. :crackup:

Only after women realize they can never keep a bad boy do they change their standards and go for men they have more control over. Same with men. We all want the supermodel in the beginning don't we?

Just saying.. being Mr. Nice Guy beta faggot who washes the dishes is not all that "flattering" when you look at the big picture bro.

I see what this guy is saying and somewhat agree. I guess you can never really know a woman's true motivations.

No one wants to be second best. I've felt what you have talked about. When I've had a woman, you want to inspire that raw desire in her which is the "bad boy" image you are referring to. Gina tingles and not just I'm with you cause we emotionally bond.

However, to use a label like the "bad boy" is where the ambiguity may be. It seems bad boy is the arbitrary term that gets chucked around but is different in everyone's perspective.

He could be rebellious, methodical, calculated, emotionally distant, cunning, dominant, intimidating, yet have tattoos under his shirt when he goes to his office job. He could also sell weed on the weekends from his hydro set up. This dude is straight up sociopath "bad boy".

But, if you were walking down the street, you may see this guy with his office gear on and you wouldn't think "bad boy". You wouldn't see his Tatts or be exposed to his personality.

Then you've got the loser down the road who's a mumma's boy yet has tattoos as well and dresses gangsta and drives a car with rims. Loser "bad boy" sells drugs too. One day he crosses paths with mr hidden "bad boy" office worker and the loser starts a fight cause he thinks office worker is an easy target. Although the office "bad boy" hands him his ass cause he ain't the poser here.

See how things aren't so black and white now.