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what the heck is wolf's paw we must know! good job by the way. It gets much easier. And yeah don't try anything thats been released. It can work but it seems everyone and their mother knows the openers, even when they dont they assume the worst. I have been called out on being a wannbe PUA 3...

Poonani Maker, you should write a book on this. Just image "Ball Shifting for dummies: get any women you desire" in Barnes and Nobles everywhere.

Just heard a few of D'angelo's Mastery tapes. It seems he's own the same path but he sounds too much like a Self Help guru and spends hours speaking about your senses and unconscious.

Thats a load of crap. You can hate the man but honestly, him and specially Style revolutionized the game, plain and simple. Don't hate the player, hate the game 10000. Mystery is everyone's baby daddy

does this really belong here?

Krazyboy, To answer your point, let me first quote myself You agree with me that the attributes are the key. However you misunderstand what Techniques really are. Techniques are the exercises. When you say a person who develops speed and strength but how did he develop these attributes...

Well then your attraction (if you are highly successful with women) is coming from attributes you already have. These techniques may be embedded into you personality. For example, are you playful? do you tease women? These are techniques that become natural once you reach the 4th stage. This is...

Thank you for your well thought out comment. After reading the rest of your comments here on DJ Forums, I must ask, are you 12?

I heard a argument discussion about Attribute centric people (David D'angelo) vs Technique centric (Mystery) in one of Style's phone recordings. As I listen to it, it got me thinking a lot about the success I have seen in my self and in others. I realized how much of a connection these two...

Mehow is great. Yes he copied the greats but who hasnt really? Anyone who is good anyway His only openers are "HEY" and "WOO HOO" -> followed by neg -> follow by DHV. He brings a Gay vibe at first which I think works to his advantage because he seems harmless. But then escalates quickly

Drink a hot cut of water the first time. It should relax your voice a bit. I also recommend talking to someone else first to get in a talkative state. As soon as you talk to them say something interesting and then boom say you have to go and that you will call them right back. Dont call for...

Thanks prema, great site.

Post her profile or it didnt happen.

Yeah 2005-2006 is when a lot of men discovered the scene, thats why there was such a big influx. Now a lot of those guys are mastering or getting better at what they initially set our to do (become good with women).

"Well I dont know you well enough for that, you going to have to tell me a little bit more about you" This is the only anwer. Never give women a straight answer. Don't be a wuss, show dominance

great post. This is a mistake I constantly make. Is amazing how many times I fall into that same trap every mothacracking time. Even when I have a feeling that its a test some women are so amazing at it that I cannot resist failing at times. "I love you baby, your amazing", the cry test, the...

I had the same issues. The problem is the fact that we have been fed lies!!! Communication is not about letting her talk about herself all day and you just listen. Yes people love to hear themselves talk but they will not find you entertaining or interesting. This is how you make friends, not...

It depends on the culture. Looks are only important at the start but if you are a loser, you can forget about keeping a 10. The key here is that good looking people usually have every other attribute women find attractive. Confidence, social status, ****y, playful etc... except for maybe witty...

I thought the same thing at first, but if you look at some of their structure you can come out with your own. I would try toning them down a bit. In contrast, the Man, Women, Ape would be great to get your friends to play while you laugh at them behind their backs! ;)

You know I have been using a lot of palm reading (got pretty good at it actually) lately but the better I get at cold reading the more I want to integrate it deeper into my game. Palm reading keeps her eyes and yours focused on the palms for example and not enough on each other.