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I'm with OP on this. The amount of time and effort required just isn't worth the ROI.
Case in point. My dumbass signed back up for match.com last week. Typical stupidity. I’m sending Mucho messages and very small sponsors that I get have no real interest in meeting in person.
Lots of effort. No return.
 

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Op I can relate to what you are saying. Never been with a hooker or escort and I have a GF now. But I can tell you that sometimes i would rather just rub one off than deal with female BS. That is with this GF, past ones, past plates, finding new chicks, etc. Sometimes I just want to bust a load and get on with the day, hassle free.
 

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you ever think that maybe YOU are the problem. 52 yr old low test dude who whines isnt exactly what women are looking for
 

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Another example. Cute 47 yo off old. Setup date. She cancels for tonight around 4 pm for a 730 date.
Says her friend is having a bad day cause she just found out her husband is cheating on her.
Thing is. I really didn’t care. I’ve gotten that turned off by dating.
 

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Another example. Cute 47 yo off old. Setup date. She cancels for tonight around 4 pm for a 730 date.
Says her friend is having a bad day cause she just found out her husband is cheating on her.
Thing is. I really didn’t care. I’ve gotten that turned off by dating.
I get this way too. good thing there’s more to life than dating! Go do them instead. :) Sometimes you just need a break. Your complaining indicates you’re not having fun and that will come through to your dates and interactions. So just take a break, have fun and get your mindset peaceful and happy again. then try again or... who knows... while you’re our doing your own thing a chick may come along!
 

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I get this way too. good thing there’s more to life than dating! Go do them instead. :) Sometimes you just need a break. Your complaining indicates you’re not having fun and that will come through to your dates and interactions. So just take a break, have fun and get your mindset peaceful and happy again. then try again or... who knows... while you’re our doing your own thing a chick may come along!
And along the lines of the advice you gave in another thread, "just go out"...

For me, this weekend is turning into quite the juxtaposition. Late-lunch date yesterday with an OLD match. Attractive, even looks like her pictures. Short of the shared and deep passion for classical music (we both have music degrees), things were warm but a bit cordial and flat. I left that date feeling conflicted about where, if anywhere, that would go.

Last night attended a swingers party, solo male no less. Second one I've been to, and from a get-your-needs-met perspective it can be pretty unsatisfying. And I say that in the context of having been able to participate in some play time at least once on each occasion. The bigger win was to quash my introversion for a night, get out of my comfort zone, and interact with a group of sex-positive people just for the experience of doing so. Plus I saw (and did) some crazy things. Left the party feeling pretty good about myself.

This afternoon is another first date with a Tinder match, in which the odds are probably going to be against any spark. But I'm doing it anyway, in the slim hope I'll get something out of the experience. I have a feeling it will range from feeling like I wasted my time, to at best maybe feeling conflicted.

Later this week I'm attending a nearby Poly Munch I found on Fet. Will be my first time seriously looking at that as something I would go deeper than the periphery. But no expectations, and it will be another chance to interact with different people in a yet another setting that has me out of my comfort zone.

So... Dating vs Doing Things. Every time I do the latter I'm reminded it can be the much bigger win.
 

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And along the lines of the advice you gave in another thread, "just go out"...

For me, this weekend is turning into quite the juxtaposition. Late-lunch date yesterday with an OLD match. Attractive, even looks like her pictures. Short of the shared and deep passion for classical music (we both have music degrees), things were warm but a bit cordial and flat. I left that date feeling conflicted about where, if anywhere, that would go.

Last night attended a swingers party, solo male no less. Second one I've been to, and from a get-your-needs-met perspective it can be pretty unsatisfying. And I say that in the context of having been able to participate in some play time at least once on each occasion. The bigger win was to quash my introversion for a night, get out of my comfort zone, and interact with a group of sex-positive people just for the experience of doing so. Plus I saw (and did) some crazy things. Left the party feeling pretty good about myself.

This afternoon is another first date with a Tinder match, in which the odds are probably going to be against any spark. But I'm doing it anyway, in the slim hope I'll get something out of the experience. I have a feeling it will range from feeling like I wasted my time, to at best maybe feeling conflicted.

Later this week I'm attending a nearby Poly Munch I found on Fet. Will be my first time seriously looking at that as something I would go deeper than the periphery. But no expectations, and it will be another chance to interact with different people in a yet another setting that has me out of my comfort zone.

So... Dating vs Doing Things. Every time I do the latter I'm reminded it can be the much bigger win.
Sent you private message
 

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This reminds me of a stand up bit with Eddie Murphy. When he was talking about Reaganomics. Some in the audience yells," Reaganomics sucks!. Then Eddie says tell us something we don't know motherf*ckers. LOL...... Trust escorts is the way to go!
 

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Latest dating sucks story. Really pretty woman sends first message to me on match.com,, that’s rare because typically if a woman sends a message to me she’s fat or ugly or both. This one was a solid eight out of 10. So we talk on the phone and do some texting and then I ask for a date. This all happened over the last few days. Then she calls me tonight and basically says she needs to focus on getting a job and she’s just not in the right frame of mind to meet someone? Wtf. Let me repeat the facts again, she was on a paid for dating site and reached out to me with first contact.

Whatever. Not surprised. Women are so finicky, it depends on their current mood. Next!
 

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Latest dating sucks story. Really pretty woman sends first message to me on match.com,, that’s rare because typically if a woman sends a message to me she’s fat or ugly or both. This one was a solid eight out of 10. So we talk on the phone and do some texting and then I ask for a date. This all happened over the last few days. Then she calls me tonight and basically says she needs to focus on getting a job and she’s just not in the right frame of mind to meet someone? Wtf. Let me repeat the facts again, she was on a paid for dating site and reached out to me with first contact.

Whatever. Not surprised. Women are so finicky, it depends on their current mood. Next!
Meet women in real life. OLD sounds like it’s stressing you out. This is bound to be the case with most online too.
 

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john needs to get some brown dress shoes, slim fit blue jeans, navy blue t-shirt or black tshirt, trim his beard at a number 2 or 3, get a haircut, brush your teeth, and go to a bar.

also start doing exercise and eating correctly.
 
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So many lardasses out there. So many... And the young females are softer and fatter than the old ones. Plus the young ones are tatted up like penitentiary thugs, wear their hair purple, and often have a bull ring hanging from their nose or a pair of those stainless steel boogers dripping from their nostrils. And these useless, smelly, disgusting sows are princesses. If you don't believe it, ask them.
 

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Zzzzz. Ho hum. More wasted efforts. Women say they want to meet a great guy, but their behavior is so opposite. I think I’m just gonna get used to being single. Gotta be less effort.
 

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I swear the next woman that tells me she wants to meet me this is my Response,, “great, meet me in 2 hours at....,”. Because by the time a few days goes by they will be on a different mood. 2 separate women who said let’s get together this weekend have gone dark. Ehhh.
 

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I swear the next woman that tells me she wants to meet me this is my Response,, “great, meet me in 2 hours at....,”. Because by the time a few days goes by they will be on a different mood. 2 separate women who said let’s get together this weekend have gone dark. Ehhh.
They are inundated with men.
 

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I seriously dont get why for some ppl its that bad

Maybe its my small town in Canada, or ppl meet women the wrong way.

Never done OLD always social circle.
You are in Canada in a small town. It's a totally different game in places like DC or LA
 

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Oh thank GOD... finally some success.... met a true hook up gal saturday night, screwed our brains out. She is not looking for anything serious, hell she doesn't even want to do diners and such, just wants to get together and bang. Freakin awesome, just what I need. to hell with relationships.
 

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Here’s a good one.... met a new FWB on a hookup site. She wants to use Kik to communicate and doesn’t want to give me her phone number. Ok, cool, lots of swingers use kik.

Now kik announces that as of Friday this week they are closing the app for good. And she still won’t give me phone number, we are supposed to meet on this weekend.

And she says even after we meet I won’t have her phone number? But she wants to bang?

I give this about a 10% chance we meet.
 

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Here’s a good one.... met a new FWB on a hookup site. She wants to use Kik to communicate and doesn’t want to give me her phone number. Ok, cool, lots of swingers use kik.

Now kik announces that as of Friday this week they are closing the app for good. And she still won’t give me phone number, we are supposed to meet on this weekend.

And she says even after we meet I won’t have her phone number? But she wants to bang?

I give this about a 10% chance we meet.
Yeah, odds aren't good.

Going to a Fet Munch tomorrow night (I guess technically tonight), will be interesting to hear if there are any rumblings about the Kik debacle and/or what the replacement is. Kik is, or was, SOP for the kink crowd.
 
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