I went away for about 3 months, really focused on my physical self and business. Those things are going very well. I think I just give up at this point on dating at age 52. I’m going to go back to escorts as it is easier, way less headache and I get what I want
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Yup. Dating still sucks
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Bullbearpig
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If you can afford it it's definitely the way to go.
Yes I can afford it. Money aside women aren’t worth the effort. It’s like this crazy game where you have to say the right things at the right time in the right way and if all the stars align then you’ll be a happy boy.
With escorts I don’t have to jump through any freaking hoops or anything and I don’t have to hear them babble on about their mother or the job they hate or whatever.
With escorts I don’t have to jump through any freaking hoops or anything and I don’t have to hear them babble on about their mother or the job they hate or whatever.
Some of my associates who are well heeled and good looking are into high priced escorts, those with good educational backgrounds and with good degrees.
And I do understand why from their perspective, it's suited for those those who are considered intellectuals, passive men.
Most of them are married whilst very few are divorced and don't need nor want the emotional attachments.
Side note: I have on occasions hired some to entertain clients when I'm in a certain country, there's benefits in that sense too.
And I do understand why from their perspective, it's suited for those those who are considered intellectuals, passive men.
Most of them are married whilst very few are divorced and don't need nor want the emotional attachments.
Side note: I have on occasions hired some to entertain clients when I'm in a certain country, there's benefits in that sense too.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
DEEZEDBRAH
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OP, if you're this eager to give up, you should really get your testosterone checked.
he said he is not willing to put up with crap, no not wanting sex
sometimes having a time when you don't waste time with dating is a good way to get your mind in peace and getting ready to try again, as long you are alive and going out you will find a girl you will like and the thing will start again, if your mind is just I need a girlfriend or I seek a LTR then things will never go well, when you get the mind of I want to have fun with her, now that is the moment you will go right
RickTheToad
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This is why I think some dudes just waive the white flag and settle instead of continuing on dating new ladies.
I think the older women get the more red flags they have, whereas men tend to lower their red flag detectors the older they get if they’re still single.
Machine10033
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OP I don’t know the age bracket your going for but past 30 there are serious fcking issues with females. It’s so toxic It makes me nauseous to think about. When that special little princess pops out a few kids... runs off every decent man she had your staring right into a psychotic abyss of desperation and manipulation. I would try going younger. My one buddy is 55 and still pulls prime ass. It’s funny because every chick over 30 says he’s the biggest scumbag around and most cucks in my area but the guy is loving life!
I always said when I can’t pull under 30 anymore it’s high end escorts.... I get where your coming from.
I always said when I can’t pull under 30 anymore it’s high end escorts.... I get where your coming from.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Never sure y anyone bothers with escorts. Cheaper to rub one out. Dating s more about being social. Being able to encourage and discourage conversational topics and spike their emotions is part of the skillset.
You are right most dates are s*** but you can turn them around. And they shouldn't be over an hour anyway. If she s dtf make the move
You are right most dates are s*** but you can turn them around. And they shouldn't be over an hour anyway. If she s dtf make the move
So much truth! I can count on one hand how many sane women I know over 30 and I’ll have some fingers left over.
I just started T injections a month ago. My levels were extremely low
Thank you everyone. Glad to know it doesn’t suck for just me. And yes I would say Everywoman over 35 is freaking crazy. Lots of problems and issues. And they think they’re so wonderful and take no accountability for nothing. And whoever told women to make men chase after them should die a very slow and painful death!
RickTheToad
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Stop caring so much. That would help a lot.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Oh I don’t care near as much as I used to.
RickTheToad
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The one who cares the least is the one who has the power and control. In the past, when I cared more, the lady lost interest. When I couldn't care less if they stayed, prayed or got laid, they cared more. Just go out to a local bar, hang out joint or happy hour, chat up with a few people or the bartenders and you'll be in beast mode in no time. It just takes some practice.
EyeOnThePrize
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When things are going well women won't seem like effort. When things are going extremely well you'll be beating them off with a stick. You'll be so high on your own life that it won't matter whether a woman is with you or not. It sounds like your social circle and social acuity is crap, otherwise engaging women wouldn't feel like a chore. If going out and being social feels like a chore then ask yourself why. Engaging people and especially women you find attractive should be a relaxing and fun thing to do. Most likely you're not happy with yourself and when you talk to women you're not prepared to dismiss them and go after what you want, which would be women with higher interest. Why not go out a couple times a month and work on simple social engagement? Get some fresh rejection so you start to realize it makes absolutely no difference and brushing it off is a sport of its own. Over time you'll learn to calibrate yourself to your environment effectively to the point that you're pretty fun to be around. It sounds like you take pretty seriously and probably get escorts as an outlet for your frustration.
Once you don't care about rejection you'll have nice big balls that women can respect. If she tries to make you jump through hoops you'll make a joke out of it, ignore it completely, or dismiss her. Not out of spite, but because you're simply not interested in playing to her frame for some puussy. You won't take her tests seriously because you'll understand another woman is right around the corner. That playfulness and self respect is attractive. Your sense of abundance or scarcity are a self fulfilling prophecy. So focus on fostering abundance.
DEEZEDBRAH
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Inability to compete is a tell tale sign. You should feel better soon.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.