"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Your tricks to gage sexual interest?

cannibustacap

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I am friends with a few awesome girls. There is tension between us, its not like we are "just" friends or what-not.

I want to be able to gage if they are interested in me sexually, but its hard to distinguish between affectionate signals and attraction signals (I am a bit new to this)

In other words:
How can you tell if your female friends are into you sexually and how do you make a move. And if she isn't into you, how do you back off and make it seem like nothing. (I still want to be friends with them regardless. Female friends can be really fun to talk to)

I think even the kiss test wouldn't work.. they would probably pass the test and when I kiss they'd be like "uhh what are you doing?"

I'm not sure, again I am new to this whole sexual communication thing. I get my signals crossed and I don't interpret them correctly all the time. Which is why I am asking you guys: what are your tricks in this arena?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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As the old saying goes, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. What do I mean by that? When you meet females you find attractive, you should initiate a sexual relationship as soon as possible - this way, there's no second guessing.

But...since it's too late for that in your case, there are other things you can try. You definitely want to try and use kino and gauge how they react to it. If positive, move on to more intimate things. Also, make somewhat sexual jokes or comments and see how they react.

Another approach is to look for clear signs of friendszone. Do they talk to you about other guys? Or give you advice on other girls? Hang out with you on weekdays, but never weekend nights? These are all usually signs of friendship.
 

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Simplest test

The simplest test of whether or not there's attraction is to "get in her space" a bit -- subtly position yourself a bit closer to her than you would in a typical interaction with somebody else. If she doesn't move away to re-establish her "space," chances are she's attracted to you. Then you can work the vibe, and see what happens.

"Making a move" isn't the right way to think about it. Escalating an interaction is a more subtle process of give-and-take (in most cases, at least), and is pretty much an art you just have to develop a sense for. Generally abrupt moves kill the vibe, unless you're already sexually involved.

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Interpol's right, too. The right kind of eye contact, playful, flirty communication, and especially kino frames your whole interaction in a sexual, rather than "just friends," way straight off. As you get your game down, this will just come naturally. Do not underestimate the power of good eye contact and confident sexuality. :)
 

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What if when you make sexual comments the girl gets embarrased?
 

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Re: Simplest test

Originally posted by Bonhomme
The simplest test of whether or not there's attraction is to "get in her space" a bit -- subtly position yourself a bit closer to her than you would in a typical interaction with somebody else. If she doesn't move away to re-establish her "space," chances are she's attracted to you. Then you can work the vibe, and see what happens.

this sounds interesting however, ....it doesn't sound too definitive of a way of knowing. WHat if simply there is no other space for her to move , say at a club ?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Obviously if there's absolutely no space to move, my "space test" is of no value.

In general. one should think of the concepts, not the mechanics.

One thing that can throw you, though: a lot of attached or even married women are more confidently flirty with men than gals who are available. Just because a gal shows signs of attraction, doesn't necessarily mean anything more can come of it.
 
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Originally posted by Bonhomme
Obviously if there's absolutely no space to move, my "space test" is of no value.

In general. one should think of the concepts, not the mechanics.

yup, I notice you are a student of body language, which book have you read ?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Experience and observation, above all

It's not so much from study as experience, Knight Ryder.

Actually, I first encountered the "space test" listening to some very good tapes on communication by a woman named Leil Lowndes. (sp?) That just fit right in with my observations, as does all the best stuff. But the real key is learning the art by putting it in practice, and simply paying attention to what is going on. One really has to experience it to get a true sense of it.

As for literature, lately, I've been very impressed by Mike Pilinski's High Status Male ebook. It goes into great detail about the flow of romantic encounters. As with any of the best material, reading it was an "a-ha!" experience. Also Disciple's "Becoming a King" thread in the TIPS section, which -- inteerestingly enough -- fits with Pilinski's material like the other half of a puzzle.
 
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