Your thoughts on modifying cars or your own.

[bud_2005]

Whats a ricer?

 

[HandyAndy]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ricer

 

[bigjohnson]

If you want to go fast for less than $120,000 just get a sport-bike. OR you can pick up a used but not used up Viper for $50K. Most of the rest of this crap is just schoolboy foolishness.

 

[PRMoon]

If you want to go fast for less than $120,000 just get a sport-bike. OR you can pick up a used but not used up Viper for $50K. Most of the rest of this crap is just schoolboy foolishness.

Sport bikes are a horrible idea. Vipers do the same thing sports bikes do...only they do it to your wallet.

 

[ketostix]

The gtr is highly respected, but the guy I bought the Stealth from had one and ended up selling it out of frustration at the high cost of getting high hp out of one compared to his friends with Mustangs and Camaros. It is a lot cheaper to get a high hp number in a large-displacement engine.

Some people have very inexpensively turbocharged the small block chevy to 800hp streetable and the big block Chevy to over a 1100hp. I think the cheapest and easiest way to make power is with nitrous oxide. You use to be able to get kits for 300-500 extra hp for around $500. To make the big nitrous numbers you need to build the motor like a supercharged/turbo with lower compression, a different cam, stout engine parts, dedicated nitrous fuel supply and ignition retard.

 

[bigjohnson]

Some people have very inexpensively turbocharged the small block chevy to 800hp streetable and the big block Chevy to over a 1100hp. I think the cheapest and easiest way to make power is with nitrous oxide. You use to be able to get kits for 300-500 extra hp for around $500. To make the big nitrous numbers you need to build the motor like a supercharged/turbo with lower compression, a different cam, stout engine parts, dedicated nitrous fuel supply and ignition retard.

Who are you callin' a retard?

Making big HP is the easy part, making it reliable and usable takes a lot more work. Even pro tuners with deep into six digit budgets struggle with this. Watch the boys on Top Gear try to get a lot of those beasts around their test track to understand. My favorite was a tuner built v-12 M-B with 850 HP that just. wouldn't. stay. on. the. track.

Sport bikes are a horrible idea. Vipers do the same thing sports bikes do...only they do it to your wallet.

Hmmm, well I've been on bikes for 35 years and I'm still OK, but then a used Viper wouldn't hurt my wallet much either, so ....

 

[ketostix]

Who are you callin' a retard?

Making big HP is the easy part, making it reliable and usable takes a lot more work. Even pro tuners with deep into six digit budgets struggle with this. Watch the boys on Top Gear try to get a lot of those beasts around their test track to understand. My favorite was a tuner built v-12 M-B with 850 HP that just. wouldn't. stay. on. the. track.

I didn't know I was calling anyone a retard? I disagree that it is any harder to make an engine reliable as it is to make HP if you have the money and know what you are doing, it's just an extra consideration in part choices. I agree it's always a challenge to get a car to handle well with high HP, but the high HP is for the straightaway.

 

[bigjohnson]

I disagree that it is any harder to make an engine reliable as it is to make HP if you have the money and know what you are doing,....

No, I mean the vehicle as an entity. Any time you start adding huge HP gains that echos around every part of the vehicle, finding every weak or cheap link. In the end it's a huge project and often expensive.

 

[ketostix]

No, I mean the vehicle as an entity. Any time you start adding huge HP gains that echos around every part of the vehicle, finding every weak or cheap link. In the end it's a huge project and often expensive.

Yeah I totally agree. That's why you're ahead to just buy a factory made performance car that's been thoroughly engineered and then maybe tweak it a little. It's kind of silly not to mention expensive turbocharging an econo-car like the Civic all the way to 300hp+ when the rest of the car's mechanicals were never designed for that kind of power. The OP should've just got a supercharged or the later model turbocharged Cobalt SS. It's diffcult enough just keeping a stock car in perfect maintenace and everything in perfect working order.