"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Your Strategy

PDubb75

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I am curious what types of strategies work best for you guys. What types of approaches do you notice that you get the most (and also the least) success from? Obviously everyone does something different, and one method may work better for other people, but I am curious to see what kind of trend there might be.

As specific as you can be the better. There are so many strategies out there. For example, "cold approaching" can be broken down to direct/indirect, location, time of day, etc. I'm curious to hear each of your personal trends for success, and even failure.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Most of my lays have come from social circles and, unfortunately, work. The latter has brought me all sorts of problems. In those places I tend to be the weird but funny, nice, mellow guy who worms his way in there. It takes a little longer that way but since I'm not particularly good-looking and a bit awkward when I first meet someone it's what works best for me.

Most of my approaches have either happened in bars where I just looked for whoever seemed the drunkest or at book stores and grocery stores where I looked for smart, nerdy, possibly hippie girls. They are the ones who fall all over me.
 

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I dont use strategies, cause they back fire and or what may have worked on one girl wont always work on another.

So, what do I do? I just start off with a simple, "HI, how are you?" How she responds I can tell if she's interested or not. If she is interested I'll persue and go for the number. Its really that simple. A girl will like you or she wont, just the facts of life. If you want to sit around wondering how to raise her interest, then your only creating short term interest.

Too many guys are looking for the "magic" answer. There really isnt one. Just be a man and go after what you want.
 

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I guess it would be Natural/Mystery game. I live my life the way I want to, and if I run into ladies that spark my interest, I'll give them a go.

-Only approach girls that display IOI's and I find attractive enough to approach, as opposed to just approaching 100 random women and seeing what sticks

-Social circle game: Meeting people at work and school, getting close to them, and their friends, and the friends of those friends, etc

-No facebook

-Killer text game

-Quick to escalate to see where I stand with a girl right away
 

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MisterD said:
I guess it would be Natural/Mystery game. I live my life the way I want to, and if I run into ladies that spark my interest, I'll give them a go.

-Only approach girls that display IOI's and I find attractive enough to approach, as opposed to just approaching 100 random women and seeing what sticks

-Social circle game: Meeting people at work and school, getting close to them, and their friends, and the friends of those friends, etc

-No facebook

-Killer text game

-Quick to escalate to see where I stand with a girl right away
To me this is right on..perfect strategy and to me the most effective
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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PDubb75

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Krueg said:
Too many guys are looking for the "magic" answer. There really isnt one. Just be a man and go after what you want.
I agree too many guys are looking for a magic answer, but I'm simply asking what works for you guys. I'm not trying to develope a strategy here. Just my curiosity.

That's why by "strategy" I was also asking about successes coming more in day game or night game, and what locations have worked best for people.
 

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Everyone has a set of strategies, even if they are not even consciously aware of it. In the words of Rollo Tomassi,

Here’s a cold hard truth; Everyone has Game. A lot of guys get uncomfortable with the idea of Game as it’s defined in the community - PUA Game, Direct Game, Natural Game, etc. etc., but really every guy has A Game. Every guy has some idea, some inner, internalized concept of how best to approach, relate to and eventually arrive at sexual intercourse with a female they find attractive. Unanalyzed, unlearned and/or unconsidered this Game is subject to the varying forces of a man's socialization and acculturation… Again, everyone has a Game in some respect. We don’t live in a vacuum, our ideas about seduction (in whatever form) is influenced and / or learned externally. The validity of that Game may be more or less effective, but at some point a man is going to adapt to a methodology of seduction as per his conditions and environment warrant.​
MisterD:
I guess it would be Natural/Mystery game. I live my life the way I want to, and if I run into ladies that spark my interest, I'll give them a go.

-Only approach girls that display IOI's and I find attractive enough to approach, as opposed to just approaching 100 random women and seeing what sticks

-Social circle game: Meeting people at work and school, getting close to them, and their friends, and the friends of those friends, etc

-No facebook

-Killer text game

-Quick to escalate to see where I stand with a girl right away
That sums it up for me, too.
 

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MisterD said:
I guess it would be Natural/Mystery game. I live my life the way I want to, and if I run into ladies that spark my interest, I'll give them a go.

-Only approach girls that display IOI's and I find attractive enough to approach, as opposed to just approaching 100 random women and seeing what sticks

-Social circle game: Meeting people at work and school, getting close to them, and their friends, and the friends of those friends, etc

-No facebook

-Killer text game

-Quick to escalate to see where I stand with a girl right away
Damn. Took straight out of my mouth. Kudos to you sir!

I totally, wholeheartley agree.
 

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Although I haven't had sex, I've found all of my opportunities have come on nights out.

And most of the people I've vaguely known through a friend or their friend has introduced me. I know for a fact that the 2 biggest opportunities I had, the girls had been friends of girls I had met only just met, and that the night I got with them I had said hello to them breifly then gone and done my own thing before bumping into them again later.

That and I actually ask the girl for a dance when we are already on the dancefloor with others. I will target her specifically, bow, take her hand, anything extravagant I can think of and ask 'would you care to dance?' it hasn't backfired yet, if they take up the offer, although I have only used it 4/5 times. Now I just need to work on taking it one step further and getting the girl to come home with me.
 

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It seems lately that most of how I go about things is when I am out on weekends. The social circle game which worked well a few years ago does not anymore. My group is aging, and the women are rather boring. Thus my preferred avenue is to meet new people.

My approach is pretty simple. Having read the game a long time ago, I have since incorporated a lot of the tricks of the trade into my own personality. Its basically natural. While I don't open with things like magic tricks, I do borrow a lot of the ways that they proposed talking to a group of people. It works well once you get it down.

As pointed out, its less of a game of 'saying the perfect thing' as opposed to just going for it.

To contrast, I have a much different approach than one of my friends. I simply approach and am able to make conversation most of the time. It can be a real conversation, or something as stupid regarding what they are wearing, I can for the most part keep it going. My friend seems to peacock and hope that women approach him. Usually doesn't happen that way. His strategy is to wait for me to talk to the women, than move in. (actually its getting tiresome being the workhorse). Since he never practices, his approaches are very limited. If I had to think of a reason why, he always thinks of the 'right thing to say', and I just go for it. Acting before you are ready is a much simpler way to do it.

Bringing another friend into the picture might be useful. The other friend is much more outgoing and friendly when he approaches people. He will go up to women and groups of people and be a social guy. If I had to look at a real life influence, it would most certainly be this guy. He has been successful with women in the past as well. There is no secret to his 'game'. He talks to anyone anytime...beach, store, in line, whenever. And its not like a nerdy rehearsed line, he actually cares what you have to say. This above all else seems to have dividends.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I don't use strategies like that also. I go out, talk to girls if I see something promising or if they are just like in front of me doing nothing. And apply the rules of game as I go. It's not something I do when I go out, it's just a way of conducting myself generally. Alot of what is taught here you need to internalize and kind of apply personality patches to yourself. I'm currently at SgtSplacker 4.3 lol
 
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