"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Your Opinion on... "Pillow Talk"

DonGiovanni

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I know some of the colder guys that like to hit it and quit it dont really care for it. while others really like it but my question is... Good? or Bad? give me your opinion.

while i myself dont have a opinion because i have yet to lose my v-card lol and ive never been that intimate with a female. But eh, gotta start somewhere right?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Kal0051

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I think you should be focusing on losing your v-card first. Then determine if you even want to talk to the girl after you **** her.

But since your asking opinions I'll give ya mine. I'm not that cold a bastard so I usually talk to the girl after. Though I seldom have let them stay the night if I had a choice (can't sleep well when someone else is in my bed).
 

(JJ)

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depends how good your inner game is i think...


it's a really vulnerable time for both of the participants... and if your inner game is weak, chances are fairly high that you'll let your inner AFC come out to play...

as long as you only give a LITTLE bit, and use pillow talk as a tool, you can make it work FOR you.

for example, if you LIKE the girl, and want her to stay around/think you have someone worth some actual time, it can be magic. she's never going to feel more connected with you than right after you make her have orgasm after uncontrollable orgasm. (if you cant do that, you shouldnt be having sex. read "the sex god method" by daniel rose before you go any further with your life)

be the girl.

thats my advice. beat her to the punch. ask her what she's thinking, make jokes about how good it was, and just generally enjoy it. you're there to have fun after all. you get out of everything what you put into it. if you put in some effort, it can work wonders.

however, if you dont want the girl around anymore, DO NOT follow this advice. i've known some girls to get INSANELY hooked after a good session or two of crazy sex + some good pillow talk.
 

blueline

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explain using pillow talk to make it work for you. i really ****ed up on this in my last relationship. i never asked her how she felt about me. when she'd volunteer to do it, it was some bull**** like "I've never loved anyone more in my life" or "you're beautiful." i do think i "hooked" her initially with this, but that girl never got off unless she was on top and grinding herself against the base of my D (which she did all the time). is it better for you to get the chick off actively rather than passively like that?
 

blueline

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the best question to ask is probably "why do you love me?"
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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S. Pryor

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I'm all for "pillow talk". After I **** her I leave her to talk to her pillow. We all saw that coming right?
 

(JJ)

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blueline,

yea, you havent read that book i posted... :down:

google this: the sex god method daniel rose site:mediafire.com

unzip the file and read.

till then, yes, it's good for the first few times to get the girl off actively. it's hard for us to understand because of how WE get off being so simple, but women are wired differently. so much more emotion and dominance/submissiveness is tied to it. although, it is also good to vary the sexual experiences just because too much of a good thing is well.. a bad thing.

and i think the op is asking about more the first couple of times, so asking "why do you love me?" probably isnt very applicable.

and...

you said she'd volunteer the 'facts' that "[she's] never loved somebody so much" or whatever? that wasnt bullsh1t... at the time she spoke it! as i said, these girls are in HUGELY vulnerable, ATTACHED positions at the time of pillow talk. she felt a certain way, and she told you about it at that moment. that's good!

my advice though, is not to ask anything AFC-ish like "how much do you like me," "how do you feel about me?" or any iteration of those. My advice is to be more covert, and not display AFC tendencies! (TINY doses are SOMETIMES okay) think more along the lines of "what's going on in your head right now?" type questions.

also, when i say make jokes about how good it was, let me tell you a story about that...

the other day i had just gotten done with a new girl, and we were doing the usual stuff, laying there, breathing hard, bodies pressed together, etc. i started joking about how now she had at least a FEW good sexual experiences. (she'd told me she hadnt--probably not true, but still a good thing to joke with her about) her response to that? "fvck yea... i feel like im at the end of one of those KY commercials where they both just lay there... jesus..."

now the purpose of that is not to e-brag, but more to show what im talking about. obviously there was a "fun" kind of tone underlying below our encounter. joking about stuff after the fact makes you come across as that fun guy, as well as avoids insecurities... two good things for your cause.

so keep it fun.
 

JLW

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If I am into the girl, I usually won't say much. Sometimes I'll just kind of feel up and down her body.
 

pinhas

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Its a necessary evil..
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Clark Kent

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Pillow Talk is fine,

Just aslong as you don't start spouting some ninkempoop stuff and pour your heart out, for thy will be used against you, psychologically if the relationship is furthered.
 
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