"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Your opinion on being persistent / desperate

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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faiNt`

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I believe it has a good amount to do with being disrespected. I'm no expert; however, I would say that being persistent means not giving up easily and being desperate means she is your only option, and THIS fuels your "never giving up" attitude. Just my personal opinion.
 

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I think that desperate is when you really really want a girl, but for stupid reasons like to validate your ego, or because she is your only one, and so you can't stand to be without her, and you must have her. "I would do anything for you!" But I imagine a scenario where she's thinking, "uhh, creep, leave me alone!"
Presistent is when you go after a girl, but it's not so much of a lost case, and you just go for the heck of it, maybe because you suspect that she may give in, and SCORE!! :cheer: But you just go for the fun, and you don't really care if she rejects you or something, because you have a million other chicks, or some other reason. Presistence is a good quality, I think, confident people are presistent.

And in the first scenario it means that the case is lost, and generally the girl has her opinion made up, she does not want you. In the second scenario presistency is good, it can make her change her mind, because the girl is like 50/50.

I hope I made my point, if some enlighted one has a different opinion, shoot!
 

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Organized Confusion said:
I dont see how it matters. If you spin some plates, where's the problem?
Just dont take disrespect from them.
right, if you spinning plays, theres no need to be EVEN persistent, correct?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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verysuave said:
right, if you spinning plays, theres no need to be EVEN persistent, correct?
no, not correct. In fact, that's called being a *****. So is nexting. Your nexting because you dont have what it takes to get that woman. So, being persistent is GOOD, as long as your doing other things, not chasing her around, and accept all her invites, etc.

Make her miss you. Give her something good, then take it away.
 

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Being persistant is chasing the girl when u have a chance with her.

Being desperate is chasing the girl when u have no chance with her and shes obviously not interested at all.
 

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It all depends on your depth/centeredness and how strong your reality is...

Everything I do could be considered creepy because I escalate HARDCORE...I go for the makeout 1min in...the reason why is because in my mind I'm always offering value...

When I keep calling chicks and texting, I'm just offering value...if they don't come out, o well...I have abundance mentality...I remember escalating with a chick who just was talking about how she hates strangers just grabbing her up...which ironically I was doing that but she didn't comment about it and actually enjoyed it...hahaha...

If you think something is creepy or desperate then of course it will come off that way...or if your reactive and living in her reality then however she frames that stuff will be desperate and creepy.

I try for the makeout 2-5 times...heck even an instructor plowed for 6 hours until the set hooked...it all starts from you reality..
 
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