"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Your best opening lines or advice for bars

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What are some of your guys favorite opening lines to say to girls or a girl by herself in a bar? What are some of your best techniques or stragies to talk about with them?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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"Happy Mother's Day to one hot mamma."

Works every time, ALL the time.
 

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I would advice against opening a conversation with a complement.
Never complement a girl if you want to seduce her.
It kills all the attraction and just makes you look AFC.

Instead you need to be polite and start a convo with something completely different. Then her hamster will start spinning and she will start doubting herself and asking questions like "Does he like me?" ,
"Am I pretty?" , "Why doesn't he complement me?"
That's how you build attraction.
 

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"Hey.. how's it going?"

Crazy I know.. then I follow that up with "are you having fun?" Or "How are you?" Even tho it is redundant because I just asked "how's it going" ... epic crazy I know.

Nuff said. Just approach. Never over think approaching.
 

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way2smart said:
I would advice against opening a conversation with a complement.
Never complement a girl if you want to seduce her.
It kills all the attraction and just makes you look AFC.
Mauser96 has been posting some Corey Wayne videos lately, so I've been watching a few of them. He says that opening with a compliment makes a big impact on a girl, because most guys don't have the nerve to come up and say something like that to a girl.

I'm not saying that's true, but that's what Corey Wayne says. I've never been one to give a lot of compliments, but maybe that's a mistake.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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"Nice a$$"

while looking her dead in the eyes with a devilish grin

It's all about frame
 

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zekko said:
Mauser96 has been posting some Corey Wayne videos lately, so I've been watching a few of them. He says that opening with a compliment makes a big impact on a girl, because most guys don't have the nerve to come up and say something like that to a girl.

I'm not saying that's true, but that's what Corey Wayne says. I've never been one to give a lot of compliments, but maybe that's a mistake.
I have seen several videos of Corey Wayne, and I don't agree nor like some of the stuff he teaches.

He keeps saying if a girl rejects you to tell them "Let me know if you change your mind", which is beta as fvk. Saying that, implies that you will be patiently waiting for that girl forever. Real men, never say that, they are in control and they will get the hell away from any girl who doesn't show any interest and will never even consider speaking with them, let alone "let them know if they change their mind".

Any girl who hears "Let me know if you change your mind" will always think that you will always be there for her like a puppy and rightfully so. You don't want the girl to think that she can have you any time she wants. Women hate men who are too available and whom they can have any time they want.
 

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This is a general question that gets asked a lot. The actual answer doesn't depend on where you are (in this case a bar), it depends on who you are and where you are in your life.

Actually starting decent conversations happens long before you actually walk into a bar. Did you dress decent? Check your stank, do you smell good? Hows your comfort level in your own skin?

A lot of people think their problem is what they are saying, when in reality its what they are doing. Most of the best sets you'll open wont require any great opening line, you'll be suprised at how little that matters when you're constantly dealing with complicated relationships.

Anyways, I usually feel like I look pretty decent when I go out. I had caught the last part of 8 Mile on some channel and saw how Eminem had reversed everything on Papa Doc at the end of the movie. I thought it would be funny to try "Opposites Opening" for a night and its actually kinda stuck with me.

It fits me because Im a decent looking guy (not a model or anything spectacular, but I clean up nice) and me AND the girl Im opening know that Im bull****ting. She knows Im flirting. That makes things easier.

You can give it a shot, see how it works for you.

"Hey, hate to bother you, Im really only here for the big girls. You're teeth are way to white for me, but I guess I can stand you for a few minutes if you're into guys with really small hands."

She usually checks out my hands, grabs them, whatever. Tells me they arent small, I tell her they are in the hands of the women I like. Its funny. She laughs... carry on.

You'll quit worrying about opening when you start having fun with it and try things that you never thought would work. Thats how you'll really find what works for you.
 

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way2smart said:
I would advice against opening a conversation with a complement.
Never complement a girl if you want to seduce her.
It kills all the attraction and just makes you look AFC.

Instead you need to be polite and start a convo with something completely different. Then her hamster will start spinning and she will start doubting herself and asking questions like "Does he like me?" ,
"Am I pretty?" , "Why doesn't he complement me?"
That's how you build attraction.
zekko said:
He says that opening with a compliment makes a big impact on a girl, because most guys don't have the nerve to come up and say something like that to a girl.

[...]I've never been one to give a lot of compliments, but maybe that's a mistake.

compliments should be sparse and negs abundant if she's really hot, the opposite if shes not.

if she's like 8+ then neg her and spare the compliments, if she's like 7- then compliment her and spare the negs.

hot girls get complimented all the time, they're used to it and it probably doesn't mean much to them. meanwhile average girls aren't used to constantly being hit on and complimented so compliments have stronger effects
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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way2smart said:
Any girl who hears "Let me know if you change your mind" will always think that you will always be there for her like a puppy and rightfully so. You don't want the girl to think that she can have you any time she wants. Women hate men who are too available and whom they can have any time they want.
I know what you're saying, and I agree. But I don't think he means he is going to be sitting around waiting for her, he is going to be going out and getting other women.

If the girl is straight up not interested in you, yeah I don't like that answer. But maybe she has some interest in you, but it isn't a good time for her, maybe she is in a relationship or something. In that case, maybe letting her know you might see her at a better time somewhere down the line might not be a bad idea.

devilkingx2 said:
hot girls get complimented all the time, they're used to it and it probably doesn't mean much to them. meanwhile average girls aren't used to constantly being hit on and complimented so compliments have stronger effects
Yeah, I don't agree with Corey Wayne when he says only the "top 3%" of guys have the nerve to compliment girls. I agree with you, the most beautiful women hear it all the time, but it might have a stronger effect on more average girls, because they aren't quite so jaded.
 

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Sometimes I'll go up and just bust on what they're drinking in a funny way, sort of a neg I guess.

Then I'll suggest something they might like better & go from there.
 

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zekko said:
Yeah, I don't agree with Corey Wayne when he says only the "top 3%" of guys have the nerve to compliment girls. I agree with you, the most beautiful women hear it all the time, but it might have a stronger effect on more average girls, because they aren't quite so jaded.
i'm pretty sure it's more like, only the bottom 3% of guys lack the courage to compliment a pretty girl when they see one.
 
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