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Young look versus old look

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When it comes to being an older guy attracting women, especially young women, there's two schools of thought.

1. Embrace the old look

2. Looks maxing, making yourself look younger

I haven't noticed a clear pattern either way when I've observed age gap relationships, maybe a bit more towards guys who look a lot younger than they are. Keep in mind that these are also dudes that take care of themselves anyway.

What is your opinion based on experience on which way is more effective for looking attractive?
 

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When it comes to being an older guy attracting women, especially young women, there's two schools of thought.

1. Embrace the old look

2. Looks maxing, making yourself look younger

I haven't noticed a clear pattern either way when I've observed age gap relationships, maybe a bit more towards guys who look a lot younger than they are. Keep in mind that these are also dudes that take care of themselves anyway.

What is your opinion based on experience on which way is more effective for looking attractive?
most men age gracefully
 

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I vote #2.

The hairdresser told me to “embrace the gray.” I tried a gray buzz and stated to get “senior discount” on my coffee receipts. Was also called “sir” like we talked about in another thread.

Went back to coloring (what’s left of) my hair, and the senior discounts stopped. The “sirs” died down. I’m not necessarily more attractive per se, but I’m at least still “on the map” now.
 

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The main thing is don't look like grandpa. Seriously.

Khakis and plaid shirts look quintessentially "Gramps" and any really young gal is going to percieve you that way......

The biggest deal is not to have a protruding belly. A protruding belly (beer belly/dad bod/belly sagging over your belt or pelvis). Some men also develop a saggy ass or no-ass-at-all.

Combine that with horse shoe bald? Screams old man. Now. Some men embrace it and don't care...but typically they are not trying to date much younger women. They typically have been married for decades or, if widowers, are dating other senior citizens.

If that is not what you want? You gotta lose the gut and dress in a hip/current way.

Saggy bellies are far and away a huge turn off. If you have one? Losing it should be top priority because you can't hide it no matter what you wear.
 

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Thanks for the replies

If I have some grey facial hair, should I be clean shaven?

Should I continue my skin care routine, or does it look better to age "gracefully?"

Should I grow my hair out long or should I cut is short?

I guess this would depend on how I do it and what I already look like.
 

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The term "grey fox" exists for a reason. I keep facial hair styled, have an eccentric haircut, and stay active. I often see people arrive at the gym 30-45 minutes after I do and they still leave first. If I feel particularly playful, I'll say something like "Yeah, not bad for __, huh?" Their jaws typically hit the floor. Speaking age above looking it or being seen as it beyond hairline or grey, beyond a wrinkle, you'd be surprised what a good physique can do.

People 15 years younger than me often look older because they simply don't care to style themselves or stand out. This only compounds as they age, leading to the "It's too late for me to change" loser's limp. (Might do a post about "Losers limps" because I haven't seen it anywhere in these forums.) It didn't take you a day to get fat, so it'll take more than a day to not BE fat.

The only thing that happens when movement stops is death. Let that sink in. MOVE. In all facets of life. Old body, young body, people can do some amazing stuff. A Nun completed a decathlon at age 67, a dude older than that (73 I think?) completed the ultramarathon in Inyo county CA that runs from badwater basin to the base of Mt Whitney.

I understand the risk for health problems goes up with age, sure. I ALSO know that the risk goes up when you aren't active or choose not to be. One of those, you can ALWAYS control. Stay fresh, clean, and look like you give a damn. Who cares about the rest?
 

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The term "grey fox" exists for a reason. I keep facial hair styled, have an eccentric haircut, and stay active. I often see people arrive at the gym 30-45 minutes after I do and they still leave first. If I feel particularly playful, I'll say something like "Yeah, not bad for __, huh?" Their jaws typically hit the floor. Speaking age above looking it or being seen as it beyond hairline or grey, beyond a wrinkle, you'd be surprised what a good physique can do.

People 15 years younger than me often look older because they simply don't care to style themselves or stand out. This only compounds as they age, leading to the "It's too late for me to change" loser's limp. (Might do a post about "Losers limps" because I haven't seen it anywhere in these forums.) It didn't take you a day to get fat, so it'll take more than a day to not BE fat.

The only thing that happens when movement stops is death. Let that sink in. MOVE. In all facets of life. Old body, young body, people can do some amazing stuff. A Nun completed a decathlon at age 67, a dude older than that (73 I think?) completed the ultramarathon in Inyo county CA that runs from badwater basin to the base of Mt Whitney.

I understand the risk for health problems goes up with age, sure. I ALSO know that the risk goes up when you aren't active or choose not to be. One of those, you can ALWAYS control. Stay fresh, clean, and look like you give a damn. Who cares about the rest?
Very good! Keep it up.
 

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You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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If you are middle aged and trying to attract thirty something women then maybe a little grey isnt a deal breaker but if youre trying to attract women younger than that having grey hair is a death sentence. Doesn't matter how you dress, how fit you are, how much cash you flash around or anything else.

So I'd say option 2 is typically the best unless youre talking about women who are mid 30s or older, in which case option 2 is still probably better but at least option 1 isnt a total deal breaker.
 

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trying to attract thirty something women then maybe a little grey isnt a deal breaker but if youre trying to attract women younger than that having grey hair is a death sentence.
Probably true. That's why being bald is a win-win. Coupled with an athletic look it projects maturity and confidence. I mean, what's the alternative when you're +40? A receding/thinning salt-n-pepper hair, a poor/failing hair implant job with or without dye? :oops: The first one projects just old with either one of the rest projecting old and insecure (a feminine trait).
 

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An indetectable hair transplant dosent project old or insecure tho. Speaking from experience
 

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When it comes to being an older guy attracting women, especially young women, there's two schools of thought.

1. Embrace the old look

2. Looks maxing, making yourself look younger

I haven't noticed a clear pattern either way when I've observed age gap relationships, maybe a bit more towards guys who look a lot younger than they are. Keep in mind that these are also dudes that take care of themselves anyway.

What is your opinion based on experience on which way is more effective for looking attractive?
Is there a difference? I’m 46 (37 in my pic) still hitting the gym, cardio, and some other activity. I also dress well, but accept that I’m 46, greying, and balding.

I’m genuinely curious. What is going on here lately with Silver Fox commentary?
 
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An indetectable hair transplant dosent project old or insecure tho. Speaking from experience
Firstly, those undetectable ones are quite rare. Secondly, there's still the issue of grey hair ... leave it like that and project old age ... color it and project insecurity.
 

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Firstly, those undetectable ones are quite rare. Secondly, there's still the issue of grey hair ... leave it like that and project old age ... color it and project insecurity.
Grey hair or white hair really isn't the problem. Its lack of grooming or not looking current. You need a current hair cut.

My ex husband is horseshoe bald. But he wears a goatee and keeps everything clipped very short & neat. Sometimes he shaves his head altogether. So there are options. The Richard Nixon look just isn't sexy no matter what so don't do that. Ick. He can look like Pit Bull when he shaves his head (and he's a great dancer) so there's that.

I know plenty of Gen X guys that have grey or even white hair & do just fine. But none of them are overweight with beer bellies & all stay in great shape & dress current.
 

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Is there a difference? I’m 46 (37 in my pic) still hitting the gym, cardio, and some other activity. I also dress well, but accept that I’m 46, greying, and balding.

I’m genuinely curious. What is going on here lately with Silver Fox commentary?
I had a discussion with someone who suggested that I shouldn't try to look young, but instead embrace the look of my age and that would be more attractive to young women.

Grey hair or white hair really isn't the problem. Its lack of grooming or not looking current. You need a current hair cut.

My ex husband is horseshoe bald. But he wears a goatee and keeps everything clipped very short & neat. Sometimes he shaves his head altogether. So there are options. The Richard Nixon look just isn't sexy no matter what so don't do that. Ick. He can look like Pit Bull when he shaves his head (and he's a great dancer) so there's that.

I know plenty of Gen X guys that have grey or even white hair & do just fine. But none of them are overweight with beer bellies & all stay in great shape & dress current.
I've always said that health is the basics of good looks.
 

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Grey hair or white hair really isn't the problem. Its lack of grooming or not looking current. You need a current hair cut.

My ex husband is horseshoe bald. But he wears a goatee and keeps everything clipped very short & neat. Sometimes he shaves his head altogether. So there are options. The Richard Nixon look just isn't sexy no matter what so don't do that. Ick. He can look like Pit Bull when he shaves his head (and he's a great dancer) so there's that.

I know plenty of Gen X guys that have grey or even white hair & do just fine. But none of them are overweight with beer bellies & all stay in great shape & dress current.
I think skin tone is also a factor on the grey vs no grey debate.

For example, I’m a very light skinned white guy. My natural hair color is closer to white, so it really washes my face out.

I think grey/white hair works best on a dude with a slightly darker complexion. I know some Italian-Americans that can rock it pretty well.
 
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@Plinco this may be.one of those situations where a recent Pic of you might be helpful.

I understand about the privacy issue but you could keep it up for a day or even a few hours. Long enough for folks to see and assess (if you think that wouid be helpful)?
 

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@Plinco this may be.one of those situations where a recent Pic of you might be helpful.

I understand about the privacy issue but you could keep it up for a day or even a few hours. Long enough for folks to see and assess (if you think that wouid be helpful)?
I've seriously thought about doing a reveal but privacy is a bit of an issue.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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