You talk too much. Shhhh!, a reocurring problem. You literally talk yourself out of her panties

[cola]

The 48 Laws of Power
Law 4: Always Say Less than Necessary




I feel like 2/3rds of the help threads here could be solved by following this rule. You will never impress people by talking. The only thing you can do by excessive talking is lower your value and set yourself up for uneccissary sh*t tests.

Thats not to say become a mute. Its to say dont volunteer un needed information. Let her dig information out of you. This is making her invest. You dont get them to like you by you investing in them. You get them to like you by making them invest in you.
Keep the conversation on her
Small example:
Say you are a engineer with NSA security clearance:

Her: So what do you do?
Don Juan: I work for the government.
Her: Doing?
Don Juan: Meh, some of this some of that. And you?

Later on when it comes in a date or two that you are this uber cool engineer for the feds it will have so much more value to her than if you let out all the beans within 5 minutes of meeting you.

Run Marathons? On your 4th or 5th one?
Her: Hey, can I see you?
Don Juan: Nah, Im training.. maybe tomorrow

Her: Training for?
Don Juan: A marathon im running
Her: Oh wow is this your first one?
Don Juan: Nah Ive ran a handful..
Her: Woooow

See how much more effective that is than forcing your awesome life on her? You look so much cooler.A lot of guys are like:

Afc: Uh huh, Im an engineer and I run marathons and I graduated with a 4.0 and I have this awesome car and I styled my hair for a half hour please like me, like me, like me, like me ..


And the girl is like

So try spoon feeding her your awesome life. No need to play all cards at once.







































Law 4: Always Say Less than Necessary

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

The only recurring problem is that experienced guys herein are not referring noobs to the core texts. We're answering the same old sh!t questions that were done to death decades ago. But, Imma just start linking from here onwards. It's boring giving answers that are already there for all to see.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Damn son, you must've read my signature.

 

[Trunks]

Yep, I have nothing to prove to anybody. Trying to impress someone communicates you are lower than them or want them much more than they want you. Also, the more you talk, the more you divulge things that mess it up.

 

[Poonani Maker]

This is true. Let her talk 80% of the time, and she WILL, and you still won't look deceptive cause women like to babble about themselves. I have recently Talked a lot to women I don't want pursuing me. Some of these single moms (my age) will latch on to me and get severely taken by me and yearn for my presence. I had to make them not like me and I did that by talking tooooo much and acting weak as I absolutely possibly could. I do these things to get women to Stop liking/wanting me.

 

[El Payaso]

Good info.

 

[old_skoolr]

I completely agree, yet I'm completely the opposite. I talk most of the time, but usually just pointless gibberish, think like Vince Vaughn in his movies, can talk for an hour and say absolutely nothing, yet still get the job done.

Though when it comes to finding out about each other, the girl is always talking more then I am.

 

[raider87]

The times when I did well with women pre so suave was when I barely said a word. When I tried too much id always blow it.

 

[Bingo-Player]

yea I agree , too much talking dries the panties out

also things like

"hey"
"How was your weekend"
"you look pretty"
"how are you"
"can we date"

however conversation can be warranted and effective IF the topic your discussing with her allows it .......

 

[Slash Dolo]

I agree yet disagree. If you aren't 100% comfortable with talking and don't know how to keep something interesting then it's best you shut up a lot of the time. And you should never reveal too much too son of course. But if you're good at talking and have charisma then I think the more you talk, the more success you'll have, and this is speaking from experience--I've worked to improve my social skills over the past several years and my success with women has skyrocketed. It goes back to what I've said in the past on here; it's not really what you say, but how you say it.

 

[cola]

I agree yet disagree. If you aren't 100% comfortable with talking and don't know how to keep something interesting then it's best you shut up a lot of the time. And you should never reveal too much too son of course. But if you're good at talking and have charisma then I think the more you talk, the more success you'll have, and this is speaking from experience--I've worked to improve my social skills over the past several years and my success with women has skyrocketed. It goes back to what I've said in the past on here; it's not really what you say, but how you say it.

Interesting, examples? More so about the "not what you say, but how" part.

 

[Slash Dolo]

Interesting, examples? More so about the "not what you say, but how" part.

It's been shown in studies that communication is around 10% what you actually say and the other 90% is how you say it, among other things. Don't know the exact number, but it's around there. Our body language, tone of voice, eye contact and social charisma are far more important than the words which we are speaking in making an impression.

I have terrible results at online dating (like Tinder) for example. Despite being a pretty good looking dude, I'm not in amazing shape and am not the tallest; and no matter what I say in messages/texts it's so hard to build rapport, yet I know if we were face to face she'd be all over me in a few hours--and that's with me thinking on the fly in real life as opposed to having time to screen what I say over text. I can't remember the last time a face to face encounter went badly with a chick. Since I was 20 years old I've managed to improve my social skills tremendously and it's in my opinion the single most important aspect of game and building your social status.

I've been using serial killers and sociopaths in a lot of my examples recently, but I think there's a lot to learn in regards to what these kinds of people bring to the table socially. Look at Charles Manson; a small, 5'3 dude with nothing to his name but what was on his person who convinced dozens of women (and men) into orgies probably hundreds of times. You can watch some of his interviews and the things he says can be pretty out there or he'll just talk in circles; but we aren't so fascinated with what the guys is actually saying, but moreso how he says it.

With all that said, I agree with the overall point of the thread, which I think isn't 'don't talk so much', but more 'think before you speak and don't say things just for the sake of saying them.'

 

[playa99]

Everything you say should hold value and be said with conviction & should lead to open conversation.

Guys get nervous and start repeating themselves and fluffing up there sentences.

Repetition of phrases like 'you know what I mean' and 'The thing is' are bad, if you know what i mean... lol

Speaking charismatically & with clarity are more important than what you say.

Eliminate phrases with negative connotations from your vocabulary. For instance replace 'I was just wondering if you fancied going to the bar with me this Thursday?' With 'Meet me at the bar on Thursday at 8pm'.

A super confident, charismatic guy won't say 'I was just wondering' he knows he is a great catch, assumes interest & acts accordingly.

 

[RangerMIke]

Women love it when they have to drag stuff out of you. Give them a little and make them work for more info. It's fun for them... you ruin her fun when you lay everything out on the table.