"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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"you talk too much about other girls"

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Thats what a girl told me tonight... it was an online conversation. She went on to say "it looks like I'm going to have another male friend, why you - men are always making this mistake".

She is into me and have admitted she was testing me the other day which I passed ;) (thanks sosuave!)..

So whats the best thing to do in these circumstances? Talk about other women to show them you've other options or say nothing?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Why are you talking about other girls? Why aren't you talking about her? I only talk about other girls to girls I want to keep in the friendzone (fat chicks or coworkers). She told you what the deal was. You killed her interest. If you are a great guy...they assume other girls are after you. If you are telling her about it, its like rubbing it in her face that you don't want her like you want other girls. Subtlety is the name of the game. Let your actions speak more than your words.
 

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Warrior74 said:
Why are you talking about other girls? Why aren't you talking about her? I only talk about other girls to girls I want to keep in the friendzone (fat chicks or coworkers). She told you what the deal was. You killed her interest. If you are a great guy...they assume other girls are after you. If you are telling her about it, its like rubbing it in her face that you don't want her like you want other girls. Subtlety is the name of the game. Let your actions speak more than your words.
I'm guessing it's just another occasion of a guy pushing the "I'm the prize" concept way too far. "Oh look at all of the women I'm talking to who are interested in me..." Way too much detail. Just being busy and not always being readily available is enough to subtly convey that you have "other things" going on in your life.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I'm guessing it's just another occasion of a guy pushing the "I'm the prize" concept way too far. "Oh look at all of the women I'm talking to who are interested in me..." Way too much detail. Just being busy and not always being readily available is enough to subtly convey that you have "other things" going on in your life.
I learned this lesson from a female. She was my starter girl when I became single. She was chunky but sexy and when we broke up we were still involved in several business ventures together. She would VERY often try and tell me about all the other guys that are interested in her...as if to make me jealous. But I didn't want her so it didn't bother me. In return I would tell her about all the guys checking her out and how she should hook up with them. Eventually she got the point and we settled into just being friends.

She always accused me of being a player, or she would call me a male slut because I never gave her all of my time when we were dating. Usually I was at the gym or resting or working on my other projects, but I never shared that info with her. I just would tell her I've been busy or working. She would always ask about my weekends. I'd give her a one or two line response. 'It was good.' or 'Hung out with my friends'. She knew about my past being a Club dj and promoter, she would see pictures of me on myspace with other girls. I just never got in the habit of explaining myself to her.

After two months she told me she loved me and how it was crazy being with me. At 3 months she demanded that I be her boyfriend. When I refused she had some other guy over the next night and made sure to tell me about it. I just withdrew my attention and sarged other girls. She's still dating that guy..but she's tried to have sex with me on several occasions. She always tells me that he's not half the man I am.

She gives me all sorts of details about their life. I give her hardly any about mine, I talk more about my life on this site than I do to people I know. She always ask am I still out there whooring it up. lol. Of course I don't anwser the way she wants. I usually just smile.


When you give them only a little it goes so much farther than when you give them alot.
 

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Great post, warrior. Just shows how people work. When you leave things up to their imagination, it will go wild. Kind of like how the sexiest girls aren't the ones that wear the least clothing.
 

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Warrior74 said:
She would VERY often try and tell me about all the other guys that are interested in her...as if to make me jealous
seen this too and it ends up being a turnoff. and the reason why it doesn't work for guys or girls is because all that prize talk is just another way of qualifying yourself

AKA trying to impress the other person
 

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Being seen with other women and actually doing things with other women do a lot more than words can ever do. Dropping a line about another woman while talking to one is OKAY once in awhile. Once you start taking it overboard, you're obviously trying to makeup for women that aren't really there.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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