"You Should Always Sit Where The Girl Wants To Sit" HAHAHAHA!

[Young Stallion]

Was on a second date with a girl.

We walked into a small nearly empty cafe that I have been to before and she had not been.

This cafe had two style of seats, one style is really comfy the other really is not.

When we got in I sat in the really comfy style of chairs and I looked up and my date was still standing up and pointing to the other style of chair in which she wanted to sit.

She said that she wanted to sit there.

I just smiled at her and said you should come and be comfy with me. We both looked at each other in silence for about 10 seconds...I was smiling the whole time.

She then sat down with me in the comfy chairs.

Then all of a sudden the waitress came up and looked at me with great dismay and said "You are supposed to always sit where the girl wants to sit". She then looked at my date and asked her what she wanted to drink. After she took her order she just walked away, then I called out to the waitress and said "And I will have a Budweiser".

The really rude waitress then just looked at me and said yeah whatever, rolled her eyes and walked away.

I then proceeded to have a very fun date with my date and at the end of it said that if we came back here I would give those other seats a try and then she would see what I mean.

When it came to bill time I was really unimpressed with how rude and unproffessional the waitress was, so when she gave us the bill I gave her 2 cents change as a tip.

When we were outside date then said awe you are so mean with that two cent tip.

To which I responded I treat people how they deserve to be treated. Then she said oh yah how would you treat me. Then I pulled her to me and kissed her hard. She reciprocated and we started making out.

I took her back to my place and banged her into submission.

It was truly a great date. My question is however what was the deal with this waitress saying "You should always sit where the girl wants you to sit"? Its like girls think they should always get there way. The ironic thing is I think my composure and not giving in to where we were sitting...as petty as that may seem...probably played a large role in how the date turned out.

 

[cola]

Just busting your balls. 10% of people won't like you.
No rhyme no reason, 10 in 100 just will hate your guts. Such is life.
No need for further analysis.

 

[Young Stallion]

I guess I should also talk about the power of calmly having the assertiveness to sit where I wanted to sit and how that increased the attraction of my date.

 

[goodfoot]

I saw the thread title and I thought it meant you steal the seat your girl wants and make her sit somewhere else lol

 

[Naughty Ninja]

To be honest I wouldn't have seen it as a big deal. If she wanted to sit in the other seats I could've cared less. But then again I guess that would make me "non-alpha". Hahahahaha

 

[BigSmooth]

I think the date would have gone well even if you chose to sit in the less comfy chair.

As for the waitress, she' just a b!tch. Simple as that. The 2 cent tip was justified.

 

[Zerro]

I would have taken it one more step and talked to her manager about it. Or better yet, make a call to the owner now that you don't have your date around to see it.

Sometimes b1tches need to be slapped down hard. Especially when it comes to being rude and disrespectful.

This is pretty much the only noteworthy thing about this story. Waitress is there to take orders, not give them.

 

[zekko]

I agree the waitress overstepped her bounds. Saying "yeah, whatever" and rolling her eyes at you? I don't blame your for giving her the two cent tip. Just be sure you never go back there so she can't spit in your food.

Waitresses are trained in the "ladies first" etiquette. They will almost always take the woman's order first, for example. Of course it would be nice if they would then take yours, as your waitress failed to do (apparently intentionally).

Glad you are having some good dating fortune, Stallion.

 

[betheman]

What Ive noticed about these scenarios is that the woman wil take her preferred seat, so she can scan the room, you wil be positioned facing her and a wall behind her.
Ive stopped all that sh!t, they know what they are doing, as for the waitress, Id have replied "the customer is always right now fuc\k off"! she only took your girls order? Id have just sat there with nothing, and would not have paid one cent to anyone, let the girl pick up the bill. what a sh!tty place to take a girl

 

[perseverance]

Just busting your balls. 10% of people won't like you.
No rhyme no reason, 10 in 100 just will hate your guts. Such is life.
No need for further analysis.

How did you come to this conclusion?

Is there evidence to support the figures you have posted?

 

[d!ckmojo]

Roissy has a cool blog post up recently about how chicks dig cruelty: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/07/05/chicks-dig-cruelty/

And in my interactions with women, it has proved so true: chicks respond to a man who treats others cruelly.

Now, I don't think its necessary or advisable to treat EVERYBODY cruelly, but in this situation which the OP described, if the waitress had treated him like that (i.e. dissing him, being snide, being rude, etc) and he HADN'T been cruel to her, his date's attraction for him would have waned.

Cruelty is a demonstration of strength, all a girl wants in her man is strength, that's the number one criteria.

But I do really like the juxtaposition between the cruelty the OP treated the waitress with and the "how do I deserve to be treated?" kiss he gave his date. That sort of contrast makes the girl appreciate a man's affections oh so much more so than normal.

All in all, a very good job OP, well done.

 

[ka_mate]

I really like the way you've handled this one Young Stallion.


I think that doing anything more than what you did in the scenario would have just been to reactive and your focus would almost be on "making the waitress treat me well" rather than your date.

As Danger suggested if you or anyone else finds themselves annoyed about this. Go home, finish the date (bang her in this scenario as Stallion did) and then call up later.

 

[bigneil]

Guys, it was NOT cool to stiff the waitress on the tip in front of your date.

It doesn't matter whether she was rude to school the OP or not.

You must realize that your date sees the tip as a reflection of HER value. Now she'll worry that she'll be seen as "the girl who goes out with that cheap guy". She will also wonder why a few dollars means so much to you. Waitresses do not make minimum wage without tips. Neither of you can never go back to that restaurant either.

Never leave less than 20% tip on a date no matter what.

 

[bigneil]

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When a Gentleman and his guests experience poor service in a restaurant....

He does not say:

"You just blew your tip buddy."

But he does say:

"We seem to be having a problem here. Would you point out the manager for me, please?"

 

[BigSmooth]

Guys, it was NOT cool to stiff the waitress on the tip in front of your date.

It doesn't matter whether she was rude to school the OP or not.

You must realize that your date sees the tip as a reflection of HER value. Now she'll worry that she'll be seen as "the girl who goes out with that cheap guy". She will also wonder why a few dollars means so much to you. Waitresses do not make minimum wage without tips. Neither of you can never go back to that restaurant either.

She will also see that you rewarded that waitress even though that waitress was acting in a negative manner.

She will see begin to think that maybe YOU are a pushover. She will think to herself, "oh well if he just gave her a 20% tip when she was being a b!tch to him, I wonder how easy I can get away with stuff!"

Never leave less than 20% tip on a date no matter what.

I will only leave a 20% tip when the service deserves a 20% tip.

The fact that the waitress earns below minimum wage is not enough justification for me to hand out my money like it's candy on halloween. Her situation doesn't give her free rein to act however she wants on the job and still expect a hefty tip.

Now don't think I am one of those stiflers.

For example, there once was a teenage single mother who was working at a nice sit-down restaurant during Christmas Eve. She was serving my table, and my group had around 10 people, and it was also getting very late.

Instead of just acting like a b!tch because of her situation and the fact that parties of 10 and over guarantee a certain amount of tip money, she was very pleasant throughout the whole meal. She was active and engaged us frequently, despite the fact that her young children were at home with a babysitter during Christmas Eve.

After the dinner, my friends and I decided to collect a pool of money and we tipped her around 400 dollars ON TOP of the included tip. The look on her face was priceless, and I still remember her joy to this day.


The point I am trying to make is that not all waitresses deserve a tip, especially not the ones that think they will earn a nice 20% tip no matter how they act because people will feel "sorry" for them because they earn like $5 an hour.

Don't reward bad behavior.